Done : Fw190D-9 ll> Stab./JG2 Gruppe Build - Aircraft of World War II

Catch22 · 01-04-2009, 08:23 PM

Here is my entry! I don't know if you want what the particular plane I'm doing in the topic title, but as I'm not 100% sure yet, I couldn't put it in. Feel free to change the title if need be once I've chosen!

Anyways, here is my kit! The model looks excellent, as expected, and I don't anticipate any major issues as I move through the build. I don't think I'll start it yet, as I'm going to get some more of my carrier done before I get too rambunxious with this. I also don't know if I can airbrush in the garage with -20 celcius degree weather! Here are the paint schemes and decals it came with:

As you can see I completely blew it when I scanned the decals, but it still shows you what's there!

Wayne brought up in another thread that the "Blau 15" is actually "Gelb 15", and as I plan on building this OOB, I'll probably end up doing the second scheme, a plane of Stab./JG4 based at the Rhein-Main airfield in Germany, spring 1945. The instructions have the ||> as white, but the decals are black; I assume they're white for ease of placement, as they did the same for the 12 in the third scheme. Speaking of which, the third scheme is of a bird flown by a Lt. Teo Nibel of 10./JG54, based in Belgium in January, 1945, so that scheme is out! For the Reich Bands, I will probably paint them as opposed to use the decals, as the decal that came with my 1/32 A-7 was a nightmare to put on properly.

Can't wait to get started!

109ROAMING · 01-04-2009, 08:34 PM

Nice Catch!

Looking forward to seeing it started

Lucky13 · 01-04-2009, 08:41 PM

Get on with it!

Can't wait to get all my stuff sorted to do my kites...!

Catch22 · 01-04-2009, 08:54 PM

I MAY start on the cockpit tonight, we will have to see. I may build it in between sections of my Franklin, to break it up a little bit. Like when I have to build well over 20 guns.

Wurger · 01-04-2009, 09:10 PM

Looking good.Can't wait to see some pic of your efford.

Erich · 01-04-2009, 09:21 PM

Catch

yes blue 15 would indicate 8./JG 301 but 8th staffel only had A-8 and A-9's never fitted with Dora 9's. it is yellow 15 of 7th staffel/JG 301. you can still do a Dora of JG 301 just pick another colour. I. gruppe had them by end of the war and many of II./JG 301 Doras never had a second gruppe bar painted on. Also III. gruppe had Doras the last 2 months of thew ar as well.

my 2 centos

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Catch22 · 01-04-2009, 09:25 PM

Thanks for the info Erich!

Erich · 01-04-2009, 09:57 PM

if you want to do one of the many Dora-9's from II./JG 301 use white for 5th , red for 6th and yellow for 7th staffels. a little history, 6th staffel first acquired their Doras in December of 44 and the two other staffels did not get full complement nearly till February of 45.

Catch22 · 01-04-2009, 11:20 PM

Hmm, interesting. I wonder why 6th got them so much earlier.

Erich · 01-04-2009, 11:57 PM

personally I think it was a test bed for the whole gruppe and interesting too that the staffel of Doras was oversized that even members of 8th staffel flew them though not equipped

Catch22 · 01-04-2009, 11:59 PM

So you mean that 6th used pilots from 8th to crew more planes?

Erich · 01-05-2009, 12:13 AM

no the opposite, in this case 8th staffel pilots used red numbered Dora 9's to fill in their depleted numbers. It's confusing to say the least

Catch22 · 01-05-2009, 12:59 AM

Ah, I see what you mean now, and yes, its very confusing haha.

Screaming Eagle · 01-05-2009, 04:17 AM

Looking forward to seeing some pics Catch!

Lucky13 · 01-05-2009, 04:31 AM

Same here... Great info Erich!

01-04-2009, 08:23 PM	#1
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Done : Fw190D-9 ll> Stab./JG2 Gruppe Build Here is my entry! I don't know if you want what the particular plane I'm doing in the topic title, but as I'm not 100% sure yet, I couldn't put it in. Feel free to change the title if need be once I've chosen! Anyways, here is my kit! The model looks excellent, as expected, and I don't anticipate any major issues as I move through the build. I don't think I'll start it yet, as I'm going to get some more of my carrier done before I get too rambunxious with this. I also don't know if I can airbrush in the garage with -20 celcius degree weather! Here are the paint schemes and decals it came with: As you can see I completely blew it when I scanned the decals, but it still shows you what's there! Wayne brought up in another thread that the "Blau 15" is actually "Gelb 15", and as I plan on building this OOB, I'll probably end up doing the second scheme, a plane of Stab./JG4 based at the Rhein-Main airfield in Germany, spring 1945. The instructions have the \|\|> as white, but the decals are black; I assume they're white for ease of placement, as they did the same for the 12 in the third scheme. Speaking of which, the third scheme is of a bird flown by a Lt. Teo Nibel of 10./JG54, based in Belgium in January, 1945, so that scheme is out! For the Reich Bands, I will probably paint them as opposed to use the decals, as the decal that came with my 1/32 A-7 was a nightmare to put on properly. Can't wait to get started! __________________

01-04-2009, 08:34 PM	#2
109ROAMING Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,994	Nice Catch! Looking forward to seeing it started __________________ "When all else fails read the manual"

01-04-2009, 08:41 PM	#3
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,128	Get on with it! Can't wait to get all my stuff sorted to do my kites...! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

01-04-2009, 08:54 PM	#4
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	I MAY start on the cockpit tonight, we will have to see. I may build it in between sections of my Franklin, to break it up a little bit. Like when I have to build well over 20 guns. __________________

01-04-2009, 09:10 PM	#5
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,967	Looking good.Can't wait to see some pic of your efford. __________________

01-04-2009, 09:21 PM	#6
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	Catch yes blue 15 would indicate 8./JG 301 but 8th staffel only had A-8 and A-9's never fitted with Dora 9's. it is yellow 15 of 7th staffel/JG 301. you can still do a Dora of JG 301 just pick another colour. I. gruppe had them by end of the war and many of II./JG 301 Doras never had a second gruppe bar painted on. Also III. gruppe had Doras the last 2 months of thew ar as well. my 2 centos E ` __________________ Rip it up !

01-04-2009, 09:25 PM	#7
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Thanks for the info Erich! __________________

01-04-2009, 09:57 PM	#8
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	if you want to do one of the many Dora-9's from II./JG 301 use white for 5th , red for 6th and yellow for 7th staffels. a little history, 6th staffel first acquired their Doras in December of 44 and the two other staffels did not get full complement nearly till February of 45. __________________ Rip it up !

01-04-2009, 11:20 PM	#9
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Hmm, interesting. I wonder why 6th got them so much earlier. __________________

01-04-2009, 11:57 PM	#10
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	personally I think it was a test bed for the whole gruppe and interesting too that the staffel of Doras was oversized that even members of 8th staffel flew them though not equipped __________________ Rip it up !

01-04-2009, 11:59 PM	#11
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	So you mean that 6th used pilots from 8th to crew more planes? __________________

01-05-2009, 12:13 AM	#12
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	no the opposite, in this case 8th staffel pilots used red numbered Dora 9's to fill in their depleted numbers. It's confusing to say the least __________________ Rip it up !

01-05-2009, 12:59 AM	#13
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Ah, I see what you mean now, and yes, its very confusing haha. __________________

01-05-2009, 04:17 AM	#14
Screaming Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 3,552	Looking forward to seeing some pics Catch! __________________ "Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity." - Hitman! - The Technical Guide for the Independent Contractor.

01-05-2009, 04:31 AM	#15
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,128	Same here... Great info Erich! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

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