The Battle of Rourke's Drift

[olbrat]

I'm curious about The Battle of Rourke's Drift and wondered if anyone could answer a few questions.



How many men were there on each side?
How may casualties were there on both sides?
Was the movie "Zulu" very accurate?

[Njaco]

1). There was 139 British troops against about 4,500 Zulus. The Zulus that attacked the drift were actually going against orders and had crossed the border. It was not a planned attack nor in the battle plans of the Zulus.

2.) I'll have to check.

3.) the movie has some inaccuracies but Hollywood being Hollywood its not bad. One inaccuarcy; The preacher Witt was not a drunkard and actually was one of the first to report the Zulus coming along with the Commissar.

Check here for some:
Zulu (1964) - Goofs

There is a thread here that goes into the battle and there is also a very good website. Will try to find it.

[olbrat]

Thanks Njaco!

I think I'll be going to the library to read up more on this interesting event.

[Njaco]

Another interesting aspect of this battle is the number of Victoria Crosses awarded. And what happened to the reciepents afterward.

[olbrat]

Thanks for the tip Njaco - I'll look that up too!

[renrich]

One of my all-time favorite movies. Saw it again a few nights ago. I wonder if the sound of the rifles was anything like the sound of a Martini being fired?

[Njaco]

I'm not sure if the sound was accurate. What always impressed me was the tactics used by Bromhead and Chard. I remember it being the first time I realized how gun lines and boxes were used by the British. And the impressive sight of the Zulus on the hill when they first appear.

Favorite line:
Colour Sergeant Bourne: "It's a miracle."
Lieutenant John Chard: "If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle."
Colour Sergeant Bourne: "And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind."

[renrich]

Way to go Njako, when I read those lines you posted a shiver went up my spine. I have read a lot of books by Bernard Cornwell, particularly about the British infantry and their drills and subsequent battlefield execution of those tactics with muskets. No doubt that based on the infantry tactics of the day they were the best trained in the world. Those tactics stood them in good stead at Rorke's Drift.

[Njaco]

My thoughts exactly. Its sometimes difficult to imagine what is read in a book but that movie brought it out fantastically. Thats what I do like about the movie. It tried very hard to be accurate from Jones from Boothwynn right down to weapons and tactics. Just when you thought all was lost another military maneuver was used. For that I love the movie and can forgive the inaccuracies, such as they are.

[renrich]

To me the movie does not appear dated at all. No special effects by computer but the action seems pretty realistic and the photography is excellent. I believe Stanley Baker directed as well as acted in the movie. It would be interesting to see the ballistics of the rifle. Reminds me of Kipling;" When arf of your bullets go wide in the ditch; Don't call your Martini a cross eyed old bitch; For she is a lady and you treat as sich; And she'll fight for the young British soldier."

[Njaco]

Ren, just found this....

The Martini-Henry

[timshatz]

I'm not so sure the tactics were all that great at Rourke's Drift. Not that what happened there wasn't a great feat of arms. But they were using a .45 (heavy) round against guys armed with spears (taking into consideration the suppressing fire from Zulu Warriors with weapons from the column). It really wasn't all that even a matchup.

The Brits just had to keep the volume of fire up and keep the "fort" intact. I understand it is not as easy to do as it sounds but their job was easier than that of the Zulus. For the Zulus, they had to cross some 100 yards of open ground, clamber up on top of fortifications, climb down and then get at the British. The whole time, they are being shot at and, at the end, they face several British soliders with bayoneted rifles that have the reach on them.

There really wasn't much the British did from start to finish but hold ground. That, is something the Brits are famous for doing very well. Historically, and as a group, the Brits are very hard to get out of a place once they get there.

[renrich]

Good site Njaco, Tim, I agree with your observations. As long as they did not panic, the British stood an excellent chance of surviving. In the site about the Martini, it mentions that the British opened fire at 400 yards instead of the 100 yards portrayed in the movie. Apparently the fields of fire were open enough for that. Even a Zulu is going to take several minutes to advance 400 yards. I have personal experience about how fast a falling block weapon like a Martini can be fired as I have hunted many times with a No 1 Ruger. I would estimate that the British could get off at least ten rounds a minute. If it takes the Zulus 4 minutes to advance 400 yards(that is probably optimistic) and there are 100 rifles, that is 4000 bullets they face in one charge. If you saw "Gettysburg" and what Longstreet said about Picketts charge, It is mathematical, the charge will fail. They estimate around six hundred Zulus KIA eventually. That is about 50% casualties but does not include wounded who survived. Terrible carnage.

[timshatz]

The odd thing about it is, if you look at history, situations like this are fairly common. Leadership on one side miscalculates, sends troops forward for an easy kill and end up throwing their soliders against prepared positions and at a technological disadvantage. Agincourt, Rourke's Drift and the Somme come to mind right away.

You get the feeling that either somebody wasn't paying attention, they were blinded by the thought of an easy kill or they just didn't do their homework.

PS- Ren, your math is good. Probably about right too. Add in the later attacks had to climb over the bodies of the earlier attacks, the tiredness factor as well as demorialization and it probably gets worse for the Zulus. One cannon from the American Civil war and a trained crew firing from 800 yards and the battle has a different outcome.

[davparlr]

I read somewhere that the Zulus were more afraid of the bayonets than they were of the bullets.