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Best infantry from 1720-1820.

1800-1914 Discuss Best infantry from 1720-1820. in the Other Eras forums; Who was it ? The British Redcoats, Napoleons Guard, the Prussian blue coats, the Saxons, etc etc ??...

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    Best infantry from 1720-1820.

    Who was it ? The British Redcoats, Napoleons Guard, the Prussian blue coats, the Saxons, etc etc ??


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    Interesting question. From all my research, LOL, with Bernard Cornwell. I would the say the finest Light Infantry of that period might be the Green Coated British riflemen with their Baker rifles.
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    I'd have to say that both the Scottish Black watch and the Prussians were formidable adversaries during that time period.

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    Napoleons Guard were superb soldiers all were veterans and on many ocassions swung battles by standing firm when the regulars began to waver However my choice is Wellingtons(sharpshooters) The Rifles of 1819, they not only used tactics that formed the foundation of modern infantry they had the ability to be self sufficient and think on their feet without a coherant chain of command.
    Indeed in Mark Urbans book Rifles he believes that man for man they were a match for the modern SAS

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    Trackend, that is the guys I was talking about. In Cornwell's novels his main character is a fellow named Sharpe who is in those Rifles.

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    My vote goes to the Napoleon's Imperial Guard.
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    I'm gonna have to go with renrich and say the Green Jackets of the British Army. Any soldier who can shoot a general and his aide (one after another) between 200 and 600 meters away deserves a lot of credit.
    P.S. I think I'm talking about Thomas Plunket durign the Peninsular War, where he shot and killed General August Colbert.
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    since we are talking of the Green jackets, allow me if you all will :

    is there a book written on the unit and it's ops during the Napoleonics ?

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    ...and to just make things worse... How would the Swedes stand in comparison?

    Edit: We fought in 10 wars during that period....!

    1700–1721 Great Northern War
    1741–1743 Hats' Russian War
    1757–1762 Seven Years' War
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    in the Battle of Narva, which was an early battle in the Great Northern War fought in November of 1700 (I know, it's before 1720). The Swedish army under Charles XII of Sweden (Karl XII in Swedish) crushed a Russian force four times its size, commanded by Peter the Great. Narva marked the peak of Swedish power on the continent, with Russia eventually finding decisive victories to end the conflict. The fight at Narva was a massive defeat for Russia....

    My regiment had quite a few battle colours captured from the Russians from that period and others. After that, I'm afraid that we've gone rather soft...
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    The Blackwatch Royal Highland Regiment had achieved many honors during this time period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    since we are talking of the Green jackets, allow me if you all will :

    is there a book written on the unit and it's ops during the Napoleonics ?
    Hey Erich, I believe that there is a book out there called "Wellington's Rifles." It deals with the 95th Rifles (Greenjackets, I think) and their actions from 1809 to 1815. I heard that its pretty good, and was written fairly recently too.
    There's also another book called "Captain of the 95th Rifles." This book is about the life of an officer in the 95th through the Peninsular War and beyond. It's a little short and narrow, but I heard that it's still pretty good.
    Hope this helps.
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    I was tinking dat Napoleons Old Guard was terrific. Except at Waterloo.
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    Very hard to call. The British redcoats were a force to be reckoned with by the end of this period, but their performance was not consistent throughout the century in question. Napoleon's troops were good, but squandered by inept leadership and an ill-advised invasion of Russia... I'm sure that happened to someone else too?
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    I have to go with the Prussians on this one.

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    I'm not sure about the Prussians - they were soundly defeated several times by Napoleon's troops, most notably at Jena in 1806. IMHO, the real Prussian ascendancy began with their comprehansive thrashing of the Austrians in 1866 - well outside the scope of the present discussion. And even that was helped by a major technological edge, as well as superior infantry (see thread above about needle guns )
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