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04-27-2009, 06:11 PM
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| Avenger II, 857 Squadron, FAA, HMS Indomitable, December 1944, Group Build. This is the 1/48th scale Italeri (re-boxed Accurate Miniatures) Avenger, which will be built and finished as an Avenger II of the Fleet Air Arm, Serial No. JZ525, coded P1X. This aircraft, flying off H.M.S. Victorious, took part in the raids against Japanese oil installations, including the famous raid against Palembang, in January 1945, when the Avengers dived through heavy flak and attacking fighters to deliver their bombs on target, destroying the oil refinery, and severely hampering the enemy's output. This aircraft was the equivalent to the TBM, built by the Eastern Aircraft Division of General Motors, and as such, there were a few small detail changes compared to the Grumman-built aircraft. The most obvious of these was the use of 'U.S. equivalent colours' for the camouflage paints. Where Grumman used British paints, Eastern Aircraft substituted the nearest equivalent in American paints, employing, for example, Olive Drab in place of Extra Dark Sea Grey, and the internal colours were also slightly different. These will be detailed as the build proceeds. There were also some internal equipment and layout differences, which will entail a small amount of conversion and scratch-building. The main internal difference was the inclusion of an Observer's seat in the rear cockpit, where some of the radio and electrical equipment would be fitted on aircraft being used by the U.S. The attached pic shows the port fuselage half, with the pencil marks indicating where frames and stringers will be added from plastic strip, and the equipment locating rack which will need to be removed from the wall. The floor in this area will also need modification, and again, this will be shown during the appropriate stage of the build. I intend to 'open' the canopy over the observer's cockpit, and I'm hoping that the careful use of a razor saw will accomplish this without tears! The black & white profile, from a 1984 edition of 'Scale Aircraft Modelling', incorrectly describes the (British) colours as Extra Dark Sea Grey, Dark Slate Grey, and Sky which, as mentioned above, were only used by the Grumman factory. This really is a beautiful kit, and I only hope I can do it justice.
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04-27-2009, 06:14 PM
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| Looking forward to this one old scout! I'm sure that you'll do it jusitce... 
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04-27-2009, 06:15 PM
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| Siggy Master   Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland
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| Looking good Terry. 
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04-27-2009, 06:23 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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 | Looking forward to it Terry! Now you've got me itching to build one of those. I saw one in a store a while back...
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04-27-2009, 06:26 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland
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| Well, what ye waiting for C-Man?
__________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!" |
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04-27-2009, 06:29 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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| Money, and a ride to the mall! 
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04-27-2009, 07:25 PM
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| Hijack a car and rob a bank!! Thanks for the votes of confidence guys! Think I might need it, as I know as much about naval aircraft, and the PTO, as I do about how a woman's brain works!!
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04-27-2009, 07:36 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Right on Terry, here we go..........
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04-27-2009, 07:41 PM
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| While not your specific plane, these should help, and I know that the one is ETO, but it'll give you a better idea of colours. I had a really good one, but I can't seem to find it. Maybe it's on my PC. I also just realized you have all of these, but here they are again!
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04-27-2009, 08:05 PM
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| Thanks Cory! Although I've seen the colour shot of the real one before, which is a Grumman-built ship, with British colours, I haven't actually got them! I think I'm OK with the 'equivalent colours', but I'm not 100% sure about one, which I think is the U.S. colour 'Sea Gray' (I need to check), which replaced the British colour 'Sky', so if anyone can give me an equivalent in Humbrol enamel or Vallejo acrylic, or a pic of the colour, it'll help. I'm not too bothered about it being absolutely accuarate, as I'm allowing for weathering/paint fade etc. Also, does anyone know what colour the decks of British carriers were? Bearing in mind, HMS Victorious had, I believe, an armoured, steel deck. Any help would be much appreciated, but there's bags of time, as there is a shed load of work to be done before paint hits plastic!
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04-28-2009, 02:57 AM
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| Awesome Terry!  A great kit! even comes with RNZAF decals ,Now thats something!
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04-28-2009, 04:06 AM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: billingham nr middlesbrough uk
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| looks good Terry
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04-28-2009, 06:30 AM
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| Very cool Terry. Love the scheme you've chosen.
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04-28-2009, 09:26 AM
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| Good one Terry this kit is a real beauty mate!
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04-28-2009, 09:15 PM
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| Thanks guys. It sure is a beaut Wayne, lots of nicely detailed, and authentic, parts, but still room for a few additions.
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