DONE: F4F-4 Wildcat "13", VF-3, W. N. Leonard, USS Yorktown, Battle of Midway, GB - Page 7 - Aircraft of World War II

Airframes · 05-14-2009, 06:48 AM

Jolly Dee! Pour forth the electronic imaging, don't you know!

Lucky13 · 05-14-2009, 06:54 AM

Quite! Care for a spot of tea old chap?

Wayne Little · 05-14-2009, 09:44 AM

no pics here either....ok,back later!

Njaco · 05-14-2009, 11:42 AM

nope, just bloody tea and half-eaten scones!!!

Airframes · 05-14-2009, 12:56 PM

I didn't even see those! Da*ned scallywag, no pics, and no tea! And definitely no scones! Humph!

Lucky13 · 05-14-2009, 04:57 PM

Some pics chaps.....

Airframes · 05-14-2009, 06:13 PM

Ah Ha! So it does exist then! Neat work so far my good man!

rochie · 05-15-2009, 05:10 AM

looks good Jan

R Leonard · 05-15-2009, 08:39 AM

Not to be a party pooper, but the interior of F4Fs was a dark bronze-green, not zinc chromate.

Rich

Lucky13 · 05-15-2009, 09:22 AM

That's alright Rich....

It's darker in reality, or should it be a completely different shade of green? Mix in some colour to get it more close to the real thing? One thing can be that, there were strong sunlight outside when I took the pic...

Of these two pics below, my is closer to the top one. The bottom one is way too dark, right?

Lucky13 · 05-15-2009, 09:25 AM

Found this cockpit on HyperScale as a future there by Toby Nelson, is this a better colour you'd say?

Catch22 · 05-15-2009, 07:03 PM

Looks great Jan!

Normally I'd make my own thread, but this'll be useful for Jan too. Tomorrow I'm going back to the hobby store that I got my Avenger at and I'm going to buy that 1/48th Birdcage Corsair. (I know, too many Corsairs!) I've already built one, but it was for my teacher and I did it in FAA colours, so I have the plans, but I don't know what colours to paint it if I want to do early war (the Blue on White or Grey(?), like the Wildcat). The Tamiya plans say to mix their Medium Blue and their white to a mixture of 2:1 (2 being blue) and for the bottom to mix Sky Grey and White (again 2:1, 2 being Sky Grey). I'd like to avoid mixing paints entirely though. Any help would be appreciated.

R Leonard · 05-15-2009, 07:42 PM

Sorry, Just got home from work. Of the two photos of actual cockpits, the second appears correct and the first is a paint over.

I have two side panels from an F4F. You may recognize them as the funny six sided panels just below and slightly in front of the windscreen on each side. Photo attached showing exterior and interior. These are from the F4F my father flew in the Solomons, b/n 11985, white F-21, in VF-11. In this plane he was credited with two A6M2's on 12 June 43. These pushed his wartime total to its final of 6.

Rich

Airframes · 05-15-2009, 07:50 PM

Nice advice, and great mementos Rich.
Jan, when mixing paint for your Bronze Green, look at the traditional Land Rover green, that's Bronze Green. You'll just have to find a Land Rover and scrape off some of its paint!!

R Leonard · 05-15-2009, 08:35 PM

Also, watch out for shoulder belts. The only F4Fs at Midway with shoulder belts were in VF-8 and those were "field expedient" designed and installed on the ship, not factory installations.

None of the VF-3 or VF-6 F4Fs has shoulder belts, only lap belts.

F4Fs with shoulder belts as a factory installation did not reach units, at least on the west coast, until mid summer of 1942.

Rich

05-14-2009, 06:48 AM	#91
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,030	Jolly Dee! Pour forth the electronic imaging, don't you know! __________________

05-14-2009, 06:54 AM	#92
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,121	Quite! Care for a spot of tea old chap? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

05-14-2009, 09:44 AM	#93
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,487	no pics here either....ok,back later! __________________

05-14-2009, 11:42 AM	#94
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,228	nope, just bloody tea and half-eaten scones!!! __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

05-14-2009, 12:56 PM	#95
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,030	I didn't even see those! Da*ned scallywag, no pics, and no tea! And definitely no scones! Humph! __________________

05-14-2009, 04:57 PM	#96
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,121	Some pics chaps..... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

05-14-2009, 06:13 PM	#97
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,030	Ah Ha! So it does exist then! Neat work so far my good man! __________________

05-15-2009, 05:10 AM	#98
rochie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: billingham nr middlesbrough uk Posts: 3,099	looks good Jan __________________ "We're not easily frightened. Also we know how hard it is for an army to cross the Channel — the last little corporal to try it came a cropper. So don't threaten or dictate to us until you're marching up Whitehall! ...and even then we won't listen!" quote from B.O.B movie

05-15-2009, 08:39 AM	#99
R Leonard Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 490	Not to be a party pooper, but the interior of F4Fs was a dark bronze-green, not zinc chromate. Rich __________________ hmmm ... I wonder what this switch does ...

05-15-2009, 07:03 PM	#102
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Looks great Jan! Normally I'd make my own thread, but this'll be useful for Jan too. Tomorrow I'm going back to the hobby store that I got my Avenger at and I'm going to buy that 1/48th Birdcage Corsair. (I know, too many Corsairs!) I've already built one, but it was for my teacher and I did it in FAA colours, so I have the plans, but I don't know what colours to paint it if I want to do early war (the Blue on White or Grey(?), like the Wildcat). The Tamiya plans say to mix their Medium Blue and their white to a mixture of 2:1 (2 being blue) and for the bottom to mix Sky Grey and White (again 2:1, 2 being Sky Grey). I'd like to avoid mixing paints entirely though. Any help would be appreciated. __________________

05-15-2009, 07:50 PM	#104
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,030	Nice advice, and great mementos Rich. Jan, when mixing paint for your Bronze Green, look at the traditional Land Rover green, that's Bronze Green. You'll just have to find a Land Rover and scrape off some of its paint!! __________________

05-15-2009, 08:35 PM	#105
R Leonard Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 490	Also, watch out for shoulder belts. The only F4Fs at Midway with shoulder belts were in VF-8 and those were "field expedient" designed and installed on the ship, not factory installations. None of the VF-3 or VF-6 F4Fs has shoulder belts, only lap belts. F4Fs with shoulder belts as a factory installation did not reach units, at least on the west coast, until mid summer of 1942. Rich __________________ hmmm ... I wonder what this switch does ...

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