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#3 MTO/North Africa Discuss Fiat CR.42 Falco.... in the Group Builds forums; I'm ever so tempted to add my 1/48 Italeri Fiat CR.42, to the MTO/North Africa thread, that is if I ...

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    Fiat CR.42 Falco....

    I'm ever so tempted to add my 1/48 Italeri Fiat CR.42, to the MTO/North Africa thread, that is if I can find a "13" from either 1 Stormo CT (B21), 9 (B27) or 22 Gruppo (B43)....



    So, have anyone of you folks seen any?
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    Hummm, I dont know, Peggy Lou is calling you though here are some tempting 13's.
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    "Valor does not mean Hero."

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    I love the 3rd one!


    The closest I could get was #73 of 9 Gruppo.

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    Now you've done it, Paul....those pics will get him going!!

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    Sure thing! But, just to be a pain in the neck, as I always am, the 13-85, that you can find in a not entirely unknown museum south of the border here, is a machine that was not going to do.
    Been looking at the Veltro 205 as well, as you can get that machine from Special Hobby with that "13" in the decalset and the '109......yummy!

    Jan "Felicis Tredecim"
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    the 3rd bird is hot.

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    Is that last one a Beaufighter?


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    Nop ...it is Bristol Blenheim.

    I like the first pic with CR-42 in.

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    Don't think it's a Blenheim, looks too big, and the turret looks like a Martin turret. I think it's either a Baltimore or a Maryland, possibly captured.

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    I'd put my money on a Baltimore bomber.....

    Jan "Felicis Tredecim"
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    The rudder doesn't fit to any of mentioned.

    Oops..now it fits.You are right.This is a Baltimore.
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    Just had a quick check. As the rudder is turned slightly, it looks slightly different. But it is the correct shape for a Martin machine, whereas the Blenheim's rudder was more pointed, had a leading edge 'step', and wasn't as tall. Also, the Blenheim had a sliding panel on top of the cockpit, and was wider, whereas here the hatch is hinged to starboard.The turret on the Blenheim was taller, and with a single Vickers, later twin Vickers or .303 Brownings. The turret here is definitely a Martin, single glazed cupola, mounting twin Browning .50 cals. The fuselage is also slimmer, and the underside curve to the bomb bay can just be discerned. The deciding factor, Baltimore or Maryland, are the engine nacelles. The Blenheims ended half way across the wing chord, whereas these extend beyond the wing trailing edge ( the Maryland's end at the wing trailing edge.) Finally, the pic shows a much larger, and taller aircraft. Definitely a Baltimore, used only in the Middle East by the RAF, RAAF and SAAF, although I believe there were also some in Free French and Greek service in that theatre.

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    It's OK Terry. But it appears the there were two kind of rudders used with the bomber.Here the US version.Notice the rudder leading edge.
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    Ah, yes. That's the early version, known as the Baltimore MkI in RAF service, used, AFAIK, only in OTI's/OCU's, along with around 100 MkII's., whereas the main equipment in the RAF MTO was the MkIII, which had the rudder mass balance, as in your first pic, to improve handling.

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    That's way I was missled.

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