Heavy Hitters GB Revell 1/48 Ju-87D - Aircraft of World War II

B-17engineer · 11-01-2009, 08:34 PM

Username: B-17engineer
Name: Harrison
Scale: 1/48
Manufacturer: Revell
Category: 3, Beginner
Accessories: None. OOB.

OK so for my "Heavy Hitters" GB.... I decided to do a kit I've had for a month now. The Ju-87D kit by Revell. It is a overall nice kit. I will NOT start until the P-40 is done (Depends, if I have time I may just get the RLM 66 done.) I decided to get the thread up though because I am extremely bored out of my mind.

The Ju-87 D variants were aerodynamically refined, more powerful engine, and heavier armament.

Kit can be completed as a D-5 flown by Col. Hans-Ulrich Rudel (Not sure, many ppl will probably build his craft.) or a D-8 intruder on the Eastern front. Paint scheme is a bit tricky though but really interests me! Any suggestions?

Pictures below show the kit. Cockpit will need a lot of time because of the instruments on the side were moulded in.

Questions!

1. What RLM is the 'Dark Green' they are talking about?
2. What color are the seats?
3.What should all the Equipment molded into the side be colored?

Thanks

dirkpitt289 · 11-01-2009, 11:17 PM

Harrison

I've watched your P-40 with great interest and I've witnessed your skills evolve over this very short period of time. As with most people here I will be watching this build too. It looks like a cool subject to model.

Just a suggestion, don't go to crazy with the details on the cockpit just yet. You still need to practice all that you've been learning on the P-40 build.

As for your questions, Not seeing a photo I can't comment on the color you are refering to.

To the best of my knowledge the seats would be the same as the rest of the cockpit but I would defer to the more knowledgeable people here

Question 3, Are you using Model Master RLM 66? If so this is very dark so in order to see the details you could go with black or in my opinion a gray. Something to make it stand out from the walls and then whatever color you choose do a dry-brush to make it pop.

Good luck my friend

Crimea_River · 11-01-2009, 11:43 PM

Good Luck Harrison. The colours you're looking for will likely be RLM 70 "Schwarzgrun" (Black Green) and RLM 71 "Dunkelgrun" (Dark Green). I see those translations on your instruciton sheet so these are the RLMs you'll need to use. The Light Blue will be RLM 65.

dirkpitt289 · 11-02-2009, 12:05 AM

Harrison

Here are a few links you might find useful. The first is a review of your exact model.
Re: Review of Revell 1/48 Scale Junkers Ju 87 D Stuka - FineScale.com Forums

This next one is another build/ review of your plane but by Hasegawa. You might be able to use it to help with your build
Junkers Ju 87 D-5 by Chris Wauchop (Hasegawa 1/4

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 07:17 AM

Thanks Andy and Dirk!!

Dirk I only got time to read the review and seems if I'm adding bombs I have to add holes to the wings!

I'll take a look at the others when I get back!

kgambit · 11-02-2009, 08:05 AM

Here's an excerpt from this link:

Luftwaffe Painting Orders

"Reichsluftministrium (RLM) regulations state that prior to November 1941, cockpits/crew areas were to be RLM Green-Gray 02, with the exception of instrument panels, which were Gray with black instrument faces.
After November 1941, all cockpit/crew areas visible through the glazing (windows) were to be RLM Black-Gray 66. Instrument panels remained as previously stated. Fuel lines were yellow, oil lines were brown, coolant lines were green, oxygen lines were blue and fire extinguisher lines were red. Here is a general guide of specific aircraft by type arraigned alphabetically. Keep in mind that with any military regulation, variations of implementation and interpretation were often seen."

"Ju87D*/G series: Cockpit areas are RLM Black-Gray 66 *D-1 first 84 aircraft are RLM Green-Gray 02 "

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 04:00 PM

Thanks Dwight!

Airframes · 11-02-2009, 04:15 PM

Nice choice Harrison. Just take it steady and, as mentioned, don't try to do too much detail work yet. The kit will look great painted and dry brushed in the cockpit area, as suggested.

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 06:43 PM

Extremely bored today. So I thought I'd do something on the model that I couldn't completely screw up on.

Testing out Model Master's paint, which I am not fond of as of now. Its not like Testors where even though there is the layer of whatever, if you take drops of it and swirl it the water comes out. This is not like that. (You see the paint in on the card that I was testing w.

Then I tried the cockpit floor.... that's all.

**I've fixed that tiny grey spot, so don't worry.

lesofprimus · 11-02-2009, 07:21 PM

Looks like u need to mix the paint better Harrison, as well as it looks like u layed the paint on waaaayyy too heavy.... I thought u had an airbrush setup???

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 07:28 PM

I mixed the paint for a long time. I really don't want to use the airbrush yet.

Paint looks fine when dried, so no worries

I'll post when completely dry you can see all the details still.

vikingBerserker · 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM

Great Choice H.

You have a nice airbrush, take advantage of it. It'll be good practice if nothing else.

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 08:24 PM

Thanks, I actually tried today.... I need to see the compressor manual again

kgambit · 11-02-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikingBerserker

You have a nice airbrush, take advantage of it. It'll be good practice if nothing else.

Suck it up and use the airbrush H.

You know you REALLY want to.

B-17engineer · 11-02-2009, 08:26 PM

hahah

11-01-2009, 11:17 PM	#2
dirkpitt289 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Plainfield New Jersey Posts: 434	Harrison I've watched your P-40 with great interest and I've witnessed your skills evolve over this very short period of time. As with most people here I will be watching this build too. It looks like a cool subject to model. Just a suggestion, don't go to crazy with the details on the cockpit just yet. You still need to practice all that you've been learning on the P-40 build. As for your questions, Not seeing a photo I can't comment on the color you are refering to. To the best of my knowledge the seats would be the same as the rest of the cockpit but I would defer to the more knowledgeable people here Question 3, Are you using Model Master RLM 66? If so this is very dark so in order to see the details you could go with black or in my opinion a gray. Something to make it stand out from the walls and then whatever color you choose do a dry-brush to make it pop. Good luck my friend __________________ Regards Dirk

11-02-2009, 12:05 AM	#4
dirkpitt289 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Plainfield New Jersey Posts: 434	Harrison Here are a few links you might find useful. The first is a review of your exact model. Re: Review of Revell 1/48 Scale Junkers Ju 87 D Stuka - FineScale.com Forums This next one is another build/ review of your plane but by Hasegawa. You might be able to use it to help with your build Junkers Ju 87 D-5 by Chris Wauchop (Hasegawa 1/4 __________________ Regards Dirk

11-02-2009, 07:17 AM	#5
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,667	Thanks Andy and Dirk!! Dirk I only got time to read the review and seems if I'm adding bombs I have to add holes to the wings! I'll take a look at the others when I get back! __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

11-02-2009, 04:00 PM	#7
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,667	Thanks Dwight! __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

11-02-2009, 04:15 PM	#8
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,030	Nice choice Harrison. Just take it steady and, as mentioned, don't try to do too much detail work yet. The kit will look great painted and dry brushed in the cockpit area, as suggested. __________________

11-01-2009, 11:43 PM	#3
Crimea_River Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary Posts: 371	Good Luck Harrison. The colours you're looking for will likely be RLM 70 "Schwarzgrun" (Black Green) and RLM 71 "Dunkelgrun" (Dark Green). I see those translations on your instruciton sheet so these are the RLMs you'll need to use. The Light Blue will be RLM 65.

11-02-2009, 08:05 AM	#6
kgambit Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 471	Here's an excerpt from this link: Luftwaffe Painting Orders "Reichsluftministrium (RLM) regulations state that prior to November 1941, cockpits/crew areas were to be RLM Green-Gray 02, with the exception of instrument panels, which were Gray with black instrument faces. After November 1941, all cockpit/crew areas visible through the glazing (windows) were to be RLM Black-Gray 66. Instrument panels remained as previously stated. Fuel lines were yellow, oil lines were brown, coolant lines were green, oxygen lines were blue and fire extinguisher lines were red. Here is a general guide of specific aircraft by type arraigned alphabetically. Keep in mind that with any military regulation, variations of implementation and interpretation were often seen." "Ju87D/G series: Cockpit areas are RLM Black-Gray 66 D-1 first 84 aircraft are RLM Green-Gray 02 "

11-02-2009, 07:21 PM	#10
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	Looks like u need to mix the paint better Harrison, as well as it looks like u layed the paint on waaaayyy too heavy.... I thought u had an airbrush setup??? __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

11-02-2009, 07:28 PM	#11
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,667	I mixed the paint for a long time. I really don't want to use the airbrush yet. Paint looks fine when dried, so no worries I'll post when completely dry you can see all the details still. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

11-02-2009, 08:21 PM	#12
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,722	Great Choice H. You have a nice airbrush, take advantage of it. It'll be good practice if nothing else. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

11-02-2009, 08:24 PM	#13
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,667	Thanks, I actually tried today.... I need to see the compressor manual again __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

11-02-2009, 08:26 PM	#15
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,667	hahah __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

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