**** DONE: Defiant 264Sqn PS*V 28 Aug 1940 BoB

[N4521U]

Username: N4521U
Name: Bill
Category: 2 intermediate
Scale: 1/72
Kit: MPM Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.1



Looking for something else a little out of the ordinary, it seems, or I haven't seen, anyone is doing a Defiant. I have located a bit of information on a downed defiant, both pilot and gunner lost, over Thanet (Kent) on the 28th of August 1940. I have found a photo of the headstone of the gunner, the log listing them as crashed, and a photo of the plane before the fact. I thought it would be significant to do something "in memory" so to speak.

Accessories: Cockpit/turret insides, prop, wheels. Decals for the VP*S and serial. Bought the exhausts, but they were wrong, so I drilled out the kit pieces.…

I wanted to do something Navy for the BoB GB, however it seems in the infinite wisdom of the RAF, as I posted in another thread, there were no flying boats operating for ASR.

Am looking forward to doing this plane! Bill

[vikingBerserker]

Very cool! I always love the unique ones!

[Crimea_River]

Good choice Bill.

[B-17engineer]

Cool choice!

[Wayne Little]

Good one Bill, I take it you are getting it from Craig!

[N4521U]

Yep Wayne, I am. Seems I can always turn to him and know he wants to serve. He gives good advice.

To the others, thanks. I guess I am always looking for the "story". If you watch the movie Amistad, there is a point when the lawyer is asked "but what is their story"?

These two poor blokes are among the ones we have to thank, thank for having the freedom we enjoy today. Sorry for getting too deep in my reason. Is just my way of paying my respects is all. Enough.

I am looking for a little help. Need a diagram of the cockpit if anyone has something. Everything on the web is rather vague. The kit is coded PS*A, I think I can turn the "A" 180 and get the "V" I am after, but the serial number I need some help with. Cheers

[Wayne Little]

Yep Wayne, I am. Seems I can always turn to him and know he wants to serve. He gives good advice.

Yep, known Craig a while now and he is always willing to go the extra step!

[dirkpitt289]

Great choice. I was contemplating doing the defiant myself for the BoB GB. What kit are you going to use and what are your plans for addressing the deficiencies (Nose, Wings, tail) of all the Defiant kits?

[N4521U]

Dirk, is the MPM kit in 1/72. Haven't seen the kit yet, so haven't developed a Plan yet. I may have to ask for advice on what needs correcting. Not much out there in the way of plan and elevation views, or even good side on pictures that I have found. You got any I might be able to use??? Would be very greatfull. Bill

[dirkpitt289]

In fact I do. Terry has sent me some stuff and I've found a few links myself. I'll be glade to put something together for you. PM me your email address. If I don't get back to you right away please feel free to remind me that you are waiting as I tend to forget things sometimes.

[Airframes]

Nice one Bill. Note that the code letters were Medium Sea Grey, not white. I don't have any decals to help with the black serial numbers, as I don't normally do 1/72nd scale, but there are after market sheets available if no one can help.
Start a thread in the BoB Group Build section when you're ready, and, depending what Dirk sends you, let me know of you need anything else. I should have scale plans and a cutaway drawing, not sure about cockpit stuff though.

[dirkpitt289]

Nice one Bill. Note that the code letters were Medium Sea Grey, not white. I don't have any decals to help with the black serial numbers, as I don't normally do 1/72nd scale, but there are after market sheets available if no one can help.
Start a thread in the BoB Group Build section when you're ready, and, depending what Dirk sends you, let me know of you need anything else. I should have scale plans and a cutaway drawing, not sure about cockpit stuff though.

I'll be sending the same stuff you sent me and a few links to some builds. If you have anything to add let me know too. You can never have enough info before starting a new build

[Airframes]

can't remember what I sent you Dirk !
I have: 1/72nd scale plans, including a sectioned side elevation; cutaway drawing, colour profiles and one mediocre B&W pic of the cockpit, plus an article on how to correct the Airfix kit.

[antoni]

Notice the pale appearance of the undersides? 264 squadron Defiants were painted a duck egg green colour not Sky. Most likely BSS 381 (1930) No 16 Eau de Nil (as is the BoB Flight's Hurricane LF363) to DTD 63A with reduced gloss.

Tip of the spinner white. The original intention was to paint them in flight colours but there is no evidence that this was ever done. All the framing of the turret black.

Eau de Nil can be obtained from WEM.

White Ensign Models RAF/Fleet Air Arm

[N4521U]

Brilliant antoni! I can't help but think my First really serious build will have all the tools I need to do a great model. I hope I can live up to it!

Plus I saw in another description as well, no roundels on the underside of the wings. I just noticed the three bars on the vert stab are wider than the illustrations show.

Please keep any info coming.