Aircraft on trains - Page 3 - Aircraft of World War II

109ROAMING · 01-18-2009, 10:04 AM

Interesting shots guys!

and Heinz....I'm looking forward to it

Bill G. · 01-27-2009, 11:40 PM

Hi! This thread caught me eye as I am also a model railroader.

I like the idea.

Reading through the posts I have a question and some comments.

Is the plane you used HO or 1/87th scale? I see a Company called CMK does make a line of HO WWII German Aircraft. Their listing includes Me-262, He-162, Ar-234, Ju-88, He-111, Fi-156, Fw-190A, and Fw-190D. They are not cheap running $27 to $39 American. I have no clue as to their quality. I am just looking at them in a catalogue.

Also the flat car you used to me has American Arch Bar trucks. I am not going to say this for 100%, but I don't think those trucks were ever used in Europe. If anyone knows better, correct me.

The largest airplane I know of that was moved by rail was a B-36. It was moved from Texas to Arizona about 5 years ago from a defunct Museum. The airplane was disassembled to move it. I have yet to see any pictures of this.

My two bits American

Bill G.

Micdrow · 01-28-2009, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill G.

Hi! This thread caught me eye as I am also a model railroader.

I like the idea.

Reading through the posts I have a question and some comments.

Is the plane you used HO or 1/87th scale? I see a Company called CMK does make a line of HO WWII German Aircraft. Their listing includes Me-262, He-162, Ar-234, Ju-88, He-111, Fi-156, Fw-190A, and Fw-190D. They are not cheap running $27 to $39 American. I have no clue as to their quality. I am just looking at them in a catalogue.

Also the flat car you used to me has American Arch Bar trucks. I am not going to say this for 100%, but I don't think those trucks were ever used in Europe. If anyone knows better, correct me.

The largest airplane I know of that was moved by rail was a B-36. It was moved from Texas to Arizona about 5 years ago from a defunct Museum. The airplane was disassembled to move it. I have yet to see any pictures of this.

My two bits American

Bill G.

Hi Bill, I personally cant answer your question. Though I might be able to help on your rail road car question. I know a link that has most of the stuff sent over seas on the lend lease. Will see if I can find a the document on rail road stuff sent over seas. If I remember right it just says locomotives, flat cars but I could be wrong.

Like you I loved the idea of a military train but found it to be a little high in money for me to start yet and my son is still a little young yet that I buy cheap cars for him to play with since he has well how do you put it taken a few out.

Micdrow · 01-28-2009, 11:38 AM

Here you go Bill,

The document I was talking about.

Enjoy!!!

Bill G. · 01-28-2009, 07:15 PM

Micdrow:

That was a most interesting list. We did ship a great many 8 wheel flat cars. The problem is that the Arch Bar trucks were out of production by WWII. They were already banned from interchange traffic here in the US.

Now some of this could have been Company cars that were not interchanged. So if used equipment was shipped and not just new equipment, Arch Bar trucks are possible.

My gut feeling is that it is not very likely, but I can't say no.

European 8 wheel cars have very different trucks from what we have here. I don't know, and the list doesn't say what style of trucks were used on Lend-Lease rail cars. Were they the style the US used or Europe used at that time?

The pictures of aircraft earlier in this thread were on cars that were in use with the German DB rail system. None of these would be Lend-Lease cars.

So questions remain to be answered.

So from across the pond (Lake Michigan), stay as warm as you can in WI!

Bill G.

Heinz · 01-29-2009, 07:08 AM

Cheers Paul!

fly boy · 01-30-2009, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micdrow

You guys might get a kick out of these. Kinda neat.

that is a panzertug or panzertung

piet · 10-13-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fly boy

that is a panzertug or panzertung

its ..panzerzug

mike siggins · 11-06-2009, 02:38 PM

bf109 aces of the eastern front by jhon weal has a couple of pics of planes on railcars

Micdrow · 11-08-2009, 10:34 AM

Found this one interesting today

B-17engineer · 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM

Bye Stuka!

Interesting, to say the least.

GrauGeist · 11-08-2009, 12:50 PM

Those Stukas sure look like they're in rough shape...

Are they are on thier way to be scrapped?

vikingBerserker · 11-08-2009, 12:53 PM

How depressing.

ccheese · 11-08-2009, 02:14 PM

Wonder where those Stukas were heading ? To the junkyard, or to a factory to be refurbished ? It appears the pic
was taken in Germany, because of the AA railcar sitting on the siding. Good pic !

Charles

GrauGeist · 11-08-2009, 02:55 PM

I suspect they were on thier way to be scrapped just be looking at the contents of the railcar in the foreground that the Stuka is resting on...it looks like scrap metal just crammed in there.

01-18-2009, 10:04 AM	#31
109ROAMING Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,994	Interesting shots guys! and Heinz....I'm looking forward to it __________________ "When all else fails read the manual"

01-29-2009, 07:08 AM	#36
Heinz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 6,731	Cheers Paul! __________________

11-08-2009, 11:53 AM	#41
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,675	Bye Stuka! Interesting, to say the least. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

11-08-2009, 12:50 PM	#42
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,346	Those Stukas sure look like they're in rough shape... Are they are on thier way to be scrapped? __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

11-08-2009, 12:53 PM	#43
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,722	How depressing. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

01-27-2009, 11:40 PM	#32
Bill G. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Plainwell, MI Posts: 460	Hi! This thread caught me eye as I am also a model railroader. I like the idea. Reading through the posts I have a question and some comments. Is the plane you used HO or 1/87th scale? I see a Company called CMK does make a line of HO WWII German Aircraft. Their listing includes Me-262, He-162, Ar-234, Ju-88, He-111, Fi-156, Fw-190A, and Fw-190D. They are not cheap running $27 to $39 American. I have no clue as to their quality. I am just looking at them in a catalogue. Also the flat car you used to me has American Arch Bar trucks. I am not going to say this for 100%, but I don't think those trucks were ever used in Europe. If anyone knows better, correct me. The largest airplane I know of that was moved by rail was a B-36. It was moved from Texas to Arizona about 5 years ago from a defunct Museum. The airplane was disassembled to move it. I have yet to see any pictures of this. My two bits American Bill G.

01-28-2009, 07:15 PM	#35
Bill G. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Plainwell, MI Posts: 460	Micdrow: That was a most interesting list. We did ship a great many 8 wheel flat cars. The problem is that the Arch Bar trucks were out of production by WWII. They were already banned from interchange traffic here in the US. Now some of this could have been Company cars that were not interchanged. So if used equipment was shipped and not just new equipment, Arch Bar trucks are possible. My gut feeling is that it is not very likely, but I can't say no. European 8 wheel cars have very different trucks from what we have here. I don't know, and the list doesn't say what style of trucks were used on Lend-Lease rail cars. Were they the style the US used or Europe used at that time? The pictures of aircraft earlier in this thread were on cars that were in use with the German DB rail system. None of these would be Lend-Lease cars. So questions remain to be answered. So from across the pond (Lake Michigan), stay as warm as you can in WI! Bill G.

11-06-2009, 02:38 PM	#39
mike siggins Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: norfolk va Posts: 5	bf109 aces of the eastern front by jhon weal has a couple of pics of planes on railcars

11-08-2009, 02:14 PM	#44
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	Wonder where those Stukas were heading ? To the junkyard, or to a factory to be refurbished ? It appears the pic was taken in Germany, because of the AA railcar sitting on the siding. Good pic ! Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

11-08-2009, 02:55 PM	#45
GrauGeist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Redding, California Posts: 3,346	I suspect they were on thier way to be scrapped just be looking at the contents of the railcar in the foreground that the Stuka is resting on...it looks like scrap metal just crammed in there. __________________ "Look back over the past, with its changing empires that rose and fell, and you can foresee the future." - Marcus Aurelius, Emperor of Rome > I Support Doug Gillis <

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