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Old 01-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #16
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The specification for Yellow-Green, used in aircraft interiors was given as:



Zinc Chromate (Yellow) Primer: 1 Gallon

Toluene Substitute: 1 Gallon.

Black Enamel or Paste 1 Gallon.

Originally 4oz of Aluminium Powder was also included.



! gallon of ‘black' would appear to be extremely excessive and it is believed to be a typo or mistake for a tenth of a gallon, a more reasonable quantity.



There were two reasons for turning ‘yellow' chromate ‘green'. One was that zinc chromate is sensitive to UV light and the Carbon Black helped to reduce the photolytic reactions the UV induced. (Perhaps the Aluminium Powder was included for the same reason.) The second was that green was thought to cause less eyestrain than the bright yellow of the raw pigment. In fact the USAAF issued a directive during WW II forbidding the use of Yellow Chromate in crew areas. In September 1943 the yellow/black mix was replaced by ANA611 which designated black tinted Zinc Chromate primer as Interior Green.



For a more detailed explanation of the various interior colours used on US aircraft see

Camouflage & Markings: Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 (Part I)
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The specification for Yellow-Green, used in aircraft interiors was given as:



Zinc Chromate (Yellow) Primer: 1 Gallon

Toluene Substitute: 1 Gallon.

Black Enamel or Paste 1 Gallon.

Originally 4oz of Aluminium Powder was also included.



! gallon of ‘black' would appear to be extremely excessive and it is believed to be a typo or mistake for a tenth of a gallon, a more reasonable quantity.



There were two reasons for turning ‘yellow' chromate ‘green'. One was that zinc chromate is sensitive to UV light and the Carbon Black helped to reduce the photolytic reactions the UV induced. (Perhaps the Aluminium Powder was included for the same reason.) The second was that green was thought to cause less eyestrain than the bright yellow of the raw pigment. In fact the USAAF issued a directive during WW II forbidding the use of Yellow Chromate in crew areas. In September 1943 the yellow/black mix was replaced by ANA611 which designated black tinted Zinc Chromate primer as Interior Green.



For a more detailed explanation of the various interior colours used on US aircraft see

Camouflage & Markings: Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 (Part I)
I was going to recommend the IPMS Stockholm site, but you beat me to it; in my years of internet camoflage and coloring research, I have found the IPMS Stockholm site to be the best overall reference for WWII. You should also check out the other two "articles" in this series (below):

Camouflage & Markings: Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 (Part II)

Camouflage & Markings: Interior Colours of US Aircraft, 1941-45 (Part III)
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Floor is black.
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Floor is black.
I thought the floor went unpainted in the P51
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Colin it is a joke, I think,Spit5 is refering to these dots in 10tweaker's posts.
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I'm highly interested in your project, look forward to it's thread.
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I thought the floor went unpainted in the P51
Only lovingly restored warbirds have immaculate varnished marine ply floors. In working Mustangs the plywood floor was covered with anti-slip material and most often painted black although Interior Green may have been used as well.
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Colin it is a joke, I think,Spit5 is refering to these dots in 10tweaker's posts.
Sorry Guys--technical difficulties. Also, I didn't want to advertise for the site I mod for and didn't know how to delete my post. I mod for a P-51 site.


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