RAF Markings and Camouflage

[von Pwnage]

Thanks for the info and images.

[von Pwnage]

Thanks for info and pix.

[antoni]

Originally Posted by Profiler

Wurger thanks for the reply,

I have contacted the website that I obtained the image from my previous post and i'm attempting to get a higher rez copy, I guess I cant really go to wrong if I use this as a guide.

I thought I might post an image, to better explain why I want to find these details. here's very much a work in progress.

cheers.

Crowbars (only fitted to Spitfires from the Mk V onwards) were not painted red until after the war. During the war they were either silver (steel) or Interior Green, perhaps sometimes black). Its purpose was to help the pilot extract himself from the cockpit after an accident. After the war international agreements on safety decreed that safety equipment be painted red and the crowbar was considered to be an item of safety equipment. The rules are probably still in place which is why warbirds and museum examples have red crowbars.

The stencilling on the door comes in several variations and can also differ from factory to factory. It was invariably red. Often written upright and upside down so that it could be read from inside (looking down) and outside the cockpit.

[antoni]

Originally Posted by Micdrow

Good example of kill markings for a british aircraft. Source of picture is from the book Fighter Command 1939-1945 by Ian Carter.

On the 30th July 1944 315 Squadron undertook a mission to Norway from which they returned with eight victories shard between 6 pilots. The Polish Film Unit visited Brenzett between the 1st and 3rd of August and took a number of publicity photographs (as well as filming) of the six pilots and Horbaczewski’s Mustang. The four swastikas denote his V1 kills. The bomb mission markings were yellow not white as they are frequently depicted. Such markings are found on Polish squadron Mustangs and Spitfires but I have not seen much evidence that they were used by RAF squadrons.

Like all Polish squadrons, 315 Squadron belonged to the Polish Air Force (PAF) not the RAF. The PAF was an independent air force integrated with the RAF and over which the RAF had operational control. Personnel had both PAF and RAF ranks but swore allegiance only to the Polish Republic not King George VI. All equipment had to be purchased from the British Government and payment was taken from Polish gold reserves in Canada after the war.

Below, the six pilots and two ground crew.

[Micdrow]

Originally Posted by antoni

On the 30th July 1944 315 Squadron undertook a mission to Norway from which they returned with eight victories shard between 6 pilots. The Polish Film Unit visited Brenzett between the 1st and 3rd of August and took a number of publicity photographs (as well as filming) of the six pilots and Horbaczewski’s Mustang. The four swastikas denote his V1 kills. The bomb mission markings were yellow not white as they are frequently depicted. Such markings are found on Polish squadron Mustangs and Spitfires but I have not seen much evidence that they were used by RAF squadrons.

Like all Polish squadrons, 315 Squadron belonged to the Polish Air Force (PAF) not the RAF. The PAF was an independent air force integrated with the RAF and over which the RAF had operational control. Personnel had both PAF and RAF ranks but swore allegiance only to the Polish Republic not King George VI. All equipment had to be purchased from the British Government and payment was taken from Polish gold reserves in Canada after the war.

Below, the six pilots and two ground crew.

Very cool info antoni, I missed that, thanks for the correction

[Wurger]

Now I'm with Antoni.And I agree that on RAF fighter planes such markings were actually very rare.As memory serves RAF pilots used small white swastics for the kind of markings and even these were also quite uncommon.

[Profiler]

Antoni,
Thanks for the additional information, I suspected as much re the colour of the crowbar, and took the red from a colour image of a warbird that I had on file, the same with the stenciling inside the door. I will make the changes to the profile when I get back to it, as I have put it aside and started another type.

I am still looking for any information re stenciling, or is it that wartime stencils like kill marking were relatively uncommon on RAF types?

For those that may be interested, this is about as far as I got before putting it aside, and for those not interested.

Thanks again guys.

[S William]

Is there any one that has any intrest in the Bristol Beaufighter

[Wurger]

RAF National markings used on Spitfires.
Source SAM publications Modellers Datafile no.3

[Micdrow]

Thanks Wurger!!!

[Wurger]

[Krisgage]

hi everyone

i wonder if anyone has the marking or code for RAF Singapore ??

Hudson , Tiger Moth , Swordfish ??

Thanks

[Wurger]

Here you are two examples of RAF Buffalos in Singapure.

Source unknown.

[Jatleby]

Hey guys, this question isn't so much about markings as it is about logos. I've been trying to find a logo for Supermarine, does anyone know what it looks like and where I might find an image of it? I know it gets tricky cause of all the mergers that took place but if anyone has an image I'd be very greatful.
Thanks.

[A4K]

Great info guys! Many thanks Wojtec for pointing me to the thread!
I'll see if I can dig something up for ya, Jatleby