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Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" photos

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    Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" photos

    Hello,
    I'm looking for photographs of Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" flown at 10./JG51, Bulltofta, Sweden. Colour photo's would be awesome. any help greatly appreciated. thank-you.


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    just so you know this was not Horsts mount but another in his staffel, he actually grabbed this machine and made off to Sweden in it. I have interviewed the other pilot when he was alive K. Schulz who said that his 109 was gassed up and Horst unknownst to anyone hopped in and flew off and K. and his kommaeraden were then captured by the Russians.

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    Man, I'd be p*ssed!

    That's pretty interesting Erich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    just so you know this was not Horsts mount but another in his staffel, he actually grabbed this machine and made off to Sweden in it. I have interviewed the other pilot when he was alive K. Schulz who said that his 109 was gassed up and Horst unknownst to anyone hopped in and flew off and K. and his kommaeraden were then captured by the Russians.
    wow, very interesting. which was his normal mount? I heard something about "Black 14"?
    its hard to find ANY pics of Yellow 5 non-the-less.

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    he flew Schwarze 14 while in 2./JG 3 usually but other black numbered 109G-6/AS in April/May of 44 before the unit went back to regular one on one fighters with the US. the idea with all blue grey 109's was to provide high cover for the T/E gruppen bomber killers and sturmstaffel 1. Horst is quite a character.

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    Had a look over here under "G-10?"

    Messerschmitt Lair


    Maj. Dietrich Puttfarken II./KG 51

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    thanks for that link!
    Last edited by P-40K-5; 10-27-2010 at 07:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    just so you know this was not Horsts mount but another in his staffel, he actually grabbed this machine and made off to Sweden in it. I have interviewed the other pilot when he was alive K. Schulz who said that his 109 was gassed up and Horst unknownst to anyone hopped in and flew off and K. and his kommaeraden were then captured by the Russians.
    after months of searching I cannot find anything on K. Schulz or his mount, do you have anymore information on him? I would like to honor the right person for my tribute 109.

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    anyways I did manage to find something...

    "Oberleutnant Kurt Schulze
    Began his service as a cadet in 1939. As a wireless operator, he flew in Me 110's over southern Russia with 3.(F)11. From 1942 - 44 he was Communications and Navigation Officer of 1/KG-2 and flew night missions to England as a navigator in Do 217's. While with KG-2, he became a pilot and in 1944, flew Me 109G's with III.JG-5 from northern Finland and Norway. There, he participated in photo reconnaissance missions over Murmansk, (F)124. In early 1945 he commanded 1/JG-51 in Gdansk, Poland where he flew the last of his 103 missions and ended the war commanding 13/JG-5 in Norway. He was credited with 3 victories and holds the Iron Cross 1st and 2nd Class, Flight Clasp, etc. After the war, he spent two years as a P.O.W. in France."


    so He couldn't have flown, or be captured by the russians as was previously said...

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    More likely a different "K.Shultz"?

    Erich knows his stuff in this area.
    Last edited by Wayne Little; 02-18-2011 at 06:47 AM.



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    Here's the Bulltofta machine
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" photos-bf109g-10-wknr130297-yellow5-0297-10-jg51-obfw-horst-petzschler-sweden.jpg   Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" photos-bf109g-10r3-wknr130297-yellow5-10-jg51-fw-horst-petzschler-bulltofta-04-05-45.gif  

    Feldwebel Horst Petzschler's Bf 109G-10 "Yellow 5" photos-bf109g-10-wknr130297-yellow5-0297-10-jg51-obfw-horst-petzschler-sweden-08-05-45-3.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Little View Post
    More likely a different "K.Shultz"?

    Erich knows his stuff in this area.
    yah no doubt he knows his stuff. all I'm saying is thats the only guy with that name who flew with JG51 in around the same area around the same time as
    Horst Petzschler. then Schulz commanded JG5 in Norway when the war ended. it could be another guy with the same name though. just havn't run
    across it yet I guess.

    AARP,
    thanks for the pics. whats the area circled in the last pic suspose to be?

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    Nothing mate, don't worry about it, it's just highlighting the larger chin bulge for the DB605D.

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    oh yah.. thought mabey there was something specific. thanks.
    I noticed in your first pic that somebody blotted out the swastika.
    the one I have has it there.

    also, the Claus drawing has vastly different colours. its been generally
    accepted that during that time the 109 used defensive colours (browns,
    greens, etc). I wonder why he chose to colour it in Greys...

    I'm building a 1:5 scale Me 109G-10/U4 of Horst's mount and just want it to
    be as accurate as possible.

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    The Swedes always blocked out national symbols.

    Firstly in my book its a Bf 109 not Me 109 although the last term was generically used by non-technical people and the allies. All the techinical manuals use the term Bf (I have most of these) and even Willy Messerschmitt used the term in his correspondence as did Ernst Udet. You rarely see the term Me in

    Next whilst the small profile might be 'technically accurate' but I think Claes' profile really shows how a late war 109 would have looked, dirty, un-loved, not well painted with poor paint quality and pretty clapped out.

    Last Erich knows more about the Luftwaffe than just about anybody I know (that's a few used greenbacks Erich ) and I know a fair few, and like the Lord, he pops up everywhere on forums you've never even heard of!

    Cheers

    Chris

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