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12-20-2003, 01:35 PM
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#1 | | Master of Ewes
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i've recently read a small article about a experimental WW2american aircraft nicnamed "the flying pancake", i was wondering if anybody had anyinformation or knows about this plane? | 
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12-20-2003, 05:16 PM
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| I'll look into it...
(btw, great name !  )
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12-20-2003, 05:23 PM
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|   "Vought XF5U "Flying Pancake"
The brainchild of Charles H. Zimmerman, the F5U was intended to perform well as a fighter plane while being able to remain in flight at extremely low airspeed, making it easier to operate from carriers. The F5U's unusual appearance owed to a very low aspect ratio wing without a fuselage, which resulted in something looking like a flying saucer. This shape, combined with powerful engines driving large propellers, could plow through the air at low speed (40 mph!), since the whole airframe is immersed in the prop wash. As a result, short takeoff and landing (STOL) performance was possible. At the other end of the performance envelope, the low aspect ratio and lack of fuselage would decrease drag, maintaining a high maximum speed. Maneuverability at all speeds would be improved by a small reduction in wing loading compared to conventional fighters, combined with a more compact shape and prop wash going over all control surfaces.
In 1941, Vought began building a low-power, full-scale demonstrator of wood and fabric construction, the V-173 (Bu. No. 02987), first flown on November 23, 1942, by Vought test pilot Boone T. Guyton. Other than test pilots Guyton and Richard Burroughs, the V-173 was also flown by Charles Lindbergh. In some 200 test flights, the V-173 proved Zimmerman right, having a low stall speed, relatively high maximum speed considering the powerplants, and being impossible to stall or put into a spin.
Based on the success of the V-173, the Navy ordered two XF5U-1 prototypes (Bu. Nos. 33958/33959) in 1944. The airframes were completed in August, 1945. An interesting innovation as the use of "metalite" for the skin, a sandwich of balsa between two layers of aluminum. Unfortunately, it wasn't until 1947 that the special articulated propellers were delivered. Tethered tests were performed in Connecticut, but plans to flight test the F5U's at Edwards AFB (delivering them via the Panama Canal) were canceled in 1948, the Navy having lost interest in propeller-driven fighters."
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12-21-2003, 05:43 AM
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#4 | | Master of Ewes
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thanks for the info, i found it v. usefull  | |
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12-22-2003, 02:02 AM
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| Glad you found it useful, m8! 
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01-04-2004, 01:21 AM
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| Found an interesting bit of info today... the flying pancake is one of the planes in the new flight sim 'Secret Weapons over Normandy'.
I might have to look into this... 
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01-04-2004, 12:13 PM
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| If you find out where, be sure to post some links
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01-10-2004, 06:36 AM
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01-10-2004, 01:38 PM
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#11 | | Master of Ewes
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01-27-2004, 05:21 PM
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| If you have CFS2 www.avhistory.org has an XF5U.
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01-27-2004, 05:51 PM
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| Really? I have CFS2, haven't played it in forever and ten days. IL-2: Forgotten Battles is so much better. If you were to put CFS2 on 'roids, IL-2 is CFS2 on 'roids, on 'roids!  
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02-06-2004, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass i've recently read a small article about a experimental WW2american aircraft nicnamed "the flying pancake", i was wondering if anybody had anyinformation or knows about this plane? | Use this link: http://www.netaxs.com/people/ebailey/xf5u.html
Yust write me an email, please: 21416201@firmail.de | |
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02-06-2004, 06:17 PM
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| FB has great graphics, effects, etc, but it doesn't have carriers, Corsairs, SBDs, TBMs, Vals, Kates, or accurate Pacific scenery - which is what I enjoy the most in sims (well, CFS2). Graphics have to be acceptable, but no matter how good they are, not having the above items marks the sim as second-rate IMO
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