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    Identification please

    Can anyone help me to identify this aircraft? the only thing I can tell you is that is french and the picture was taken around 1940. a DC-2 perhaps? or a Breguet 470 Fulgur?

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    Sure looks like a DC-2 to me

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    Definitely a DC-2 or one of its family. You can tell the difference from the DC-3 by the straight sides. The DC-3 fuselage had a more round section. I took the picture below at the air force museum in Dayton Ohio about 10 years ago. If I remember right the sign said it was a hybrid with the fuselage of a DC-2 and wings of a DC-3
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    Your photo is a C-33, basically a DC-2 with a DC-3 tail plane. The fuselages are the same forward of the empennage and if I remember correctly both aircraft were built off the same original production tooling. The Republican AF operated 4 or 5 DC-2s and I would guess they might have been delivered through France. Additionally the loop antenna and radio masts are also a give away - I think KLM operated DC-2s with the same equipment.

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    That sounds right. I took the picture ten years ago and the sign probably said DC-3 tail instead of wings.

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    Thanks. I had no idea France used C-33s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gekho View Post
    Thanks. I had no idea France used C-33s.
    Actually I believe your photo is a DC-2 that was being delivered to Spain. I was talking about T Bolt's photo.

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    Actually the plane in the 1st picture is a Marcel Bloch MB 220, not a DC anything...
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    It could be......
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    And waht about these? The first one seems to be a japanese floatplane captured by the americans, and the second one.... a captured Blohm & Voss?? It´s not a Coronado and neither a Mariner.
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    the last one looks like a Short Sunderland


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    The first one is a Aichi E16A1 Zuiun ("Paul") and the second one is a british Short Flying boat of some sort...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gekho View Post
    It could be......
    Actually I would say that's it. Look at the exhaust stack behind the engine cowl. The DC-2 didn't have that.

    Its a Bloch MB 220
    Last edited by FLYBOYJ; 05-06-2010 at 10:17 AM.

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    ...a british Short S23 'C' Class or 'Empire' Flying Boat to be exact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Vick View Post
    ...a british Short S23 'C' Class or 'Empire' Flying Boat to be exact.
    thats the one, been niggling me what it was i was very unsure about it being a sunderland but could not remember the real type


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