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04-24-2004, 02:09 PM
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#1 | | Member
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i know it may not exist but was there actually a such thing as the German Ju390?  | 
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04-24-2004, 02:42 PM
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Country: | sorry i just found out that there was a Ju 390 but it was only a prototype | |
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04-25-2004, 01:34 AM
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#3 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Country:  | Junkers JU 390  Quote:
Type: Long Range Bomber or Reconnaissance aircraft.
Origin: Junkers Flugzeug und Motorenwerke AG
Models: V1 to V3 and A-1
Crew: N/A
First Flight: Prototypes only
Final Delivery: None
Number Produced: V1 and V2 Only
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Engine:
Model: BMW 801E
Type: 18-Cylinder two-row radial
Number: Six Horsepower: 1,970 hp
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Dimensions:
Wing span: 165 ft. 1 in. (50.30m)
Length: 112 ft. 2.5 in. (34.20m)
Height: 22 ft. 7 in. (6.89m)
Wing Surface Area: N/A
Weights:
Empty: 81,350 lb. (36,900 kg)
Loaded: 166,448 lb. (75,500 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed:
Clean: 314 mph (505 kph)
With Max. Eternal Weapons: 267 mph (430 kph)
Initial Climb: N/A
Service Ceiling (Typical): N/A
Range in Recce configuration:
6,027 miles (9700 km)
Endurance in Recce configuration: 32 Hours
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Armament:
Eight 20mm MG 151.
Eight 13mm MG 131.
Payload:
Transport (V1): 22,046 lb. (10,000 kg)
Bomber (V3): 3,968 lb. (1800 kg)
Avionics:
FuG 200 Hohentwiel Radar.
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04-28-2004, 06:05 AM
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| Two more photos:  
It served with KG 200.
Edit: Hmm.. the first one looks to be flipped photo above.
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05-07-2004, 11:11 AM
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Country:  | wow, thats a pretty imposing looking plane
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11-10-2005, 05:50 AM
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| Junkers Ju 390
As far as I know there were only V1 and V2 models of Ju 390 produced. It is beleived that one of them made the famous "New York flight" in January 1944,probably as a member of FAGr.5 (Fernaufsklarungsgruppe 5), but I am not convinced of it...  | |
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11-10-2005, 05:57 AM
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| For something so big it carried such a small bomb load, almost 4,000lb. Allied medium bombers and some fighters were carrying that much!!!
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11-10-2005, 07:09 AM
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| .. either you load gasoline or bombs,  ... and if your plan is to bomb NY from Berlin you need a lot of fuel.
Probably the expected payload for medium range missions is close to the 10.000 kg - 20.000 lb specs given for the cargo configuration.
Anyway, with an EW of 81.000 lb and MTOW of over 160.000 they have some room to load stuff, unless they use the fattest crew ever seen on a plane.
Anyway it looks to me another German example of 'nice plane that we can't afford' (or 'a waste of money and material' if you want to say it in upper-class language)
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11-10-2005, 07:12 AM
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| .. either you load gasoline or bombs, ... and if your plan is to bomb NY from Berlin you need a lot of fuel.
Probably the expected payload for medium range missions is close to the 10.000 kg - 20.000 lb specs given for the cargo configuration.
Anyway, with an EW of 81.000 lb and MTOW of over 160.000 they have some room to load stuff, unless they use the fattest crew ever seen on a plane.
Anyway it looks to me another German example of 'nice plane that we can't afford' (or 'a waste of money and material' if you want to say it in upper-class language)
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11-10-2005, 09:36 AM
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#10 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | to make it perfectly clear once and for all. The Ju 390's in FAGr 5 never made the so-called mission to New York. The op is not recorded anywhere in their flugbuch. this is all a post war myth started in William Greens book Warplanes of the third recih back in the late 1960's and has been accepted as fact. the Ju 390 with KG 200 and two other units provided clandestine agent dropping
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11-25-2005, 07:47 AM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Everyone go to the WW2 mysteries thread. Me and Erich have pretty much covered everything about the Ju-390 including dispelling many myths about it.
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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11-25-2005, 07:47 AM
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#12 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Everyone go to the WW2 mysteries thread. Me and Erich have pretty much covered everything about the Ju-390 including dispelling many myths about it.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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10-25-2006, 05:53 PM
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Country: | maximum payload was 35,000kg over 9,500km, but hey if all you want is a truck to carry a single A-bomb the Ju-390 is your plane.
SORRY EVEYONE... I DIDN"T NOTICE THE DISCUSSION WAS SHIFTED TO ANOTHER THREAD UNDER WW2 MYSTERIES
Last edited by Kiwikid : 10-25-2006 at 06:36 PM.
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