Looking for P-47D Chinese Makings

Tao-san · 06-23-2008, 10:50 AM

Hi everybody,
Here is my humble contribution to Luke.stz request.
I'm a warbirds profiles collector and have some chinese Thunderbolts pictures.
Hope this will help you a little.
Always confirme the informations displayed inside the pictures, mistakes are currently made.

Best regard,
Tao-san.

Edit : It seems that the P-47D Razorback profile is in fact a 11st FG Chinese AF based on Kangwan field, Shangai during 1947.
I've been told that many of them join this fighter group this year.

Tao-san · 06-23-2008, 03:29 PM

I think the P-51s are aluminium natural, like the P-47 you've done.
I really like the kit, very realistic finition aspect, and it's not easy to realise.
I'm gonna paste some P-51 profiles, but as the P-47s they come from a low definition russian site, so Net research is necessary to obtain details.
I'm gonna upload the profiles, see you next post.

Wurger · 06-23-2008, 03:36 PM

Nice stuff here Tao-san.

Tao-san · 06-23-2008, 03:37 PM

Here they are but I don't have any information about.
Why are they so rare to find ? strange ...

Hope this help you,
Sincerely Tao-san.

Wurger · 06-23-2008, 03:41 PM

I think that's because the Chinese camo schemes aren't as popular as these used in Europe or over Pacyfic.

The second good set of aircraft in Chinese colours.THX for uploading here mate.

Tao-san · 06-23-2008, 03:58 PM

Thank you Wurger.
I think you're right the chinese warbirds are commun but their history could be interesting.
For example the last profile make me think about a P-51D or K of ex 348th FG, the prop spinner have the same 3 colours than the mustangs of Col William Banks or Col William Dunham, both commanders of the 348th Fighter Group based at Ie Shima during summer 1945.
The warbird didn't want to get back, wanted to fly and fly and fly ...
See you.

Wurger · 06-23-2008, 04:08 PM

Yep.

Tao-san · 06-23-2008, 04:54 PM

Here is a more detailled profile than the last one of the last set.
There is a legend inside and the logo is more visible.
Some other I found on Wing Palette site and one of KTM chinese to make a pair of China civil war Mustang/Cavalier.
I've copy/paste the informations inside the pictures, easier like that.

It's up to you now.

Wurger · 06-23-2008, 05:13 PM

Cool.The second and the last one are looking interesting.

Lucke.stz · 06-24-2008, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thirtybg

And some Chinese Ponies... some, or all of these may have been from the CACW, but I'm not sure.

[All photos: M. Kyburz collection

Thanks for all replies...

But I guess that these P-51 on the pics aren't alluminium... cos they have some square-lined painture (almost extinguished painting) on the tail.

What squadrons flow these painture scheme on CBI ?

I think that these plane was moved to some of these squadrons and incorporated by the China Air Force, so discovering what squadron flow P-51C's with the tail square-lined, I think that it a great chance to have sucess on the correct painture....

Thanks for all help !

Lucas

Tao-san · 06-24-2008, 02:11 PM

The squares you're talking about are from ancien Checkertail markings, 325th Fighter Group.
European theatre of operations was a priority and many aircrafts came from this theatre before serving in CBI or Pacific theatre.
Many chinese warbirds had several lifes, ETO,CBI and China again. For example many P-40s, P-47s and P-51s were in service in Air Commando Groups before, and before that in service in Europe, and so...
I put a 325th FG P-51B to illustrate what I'm saying, but as you can see the rest of the plane is aluminium.

You see what I mean ?

Tao-san · 06-24-2008, 02:20 PM

This one looks closer than the one above, the tail is in full marking.

This fighter group was very famous in the sky of Italy, and many pilots became aces with the Thunderbolts or Mustangs.
The clear painting zones were (from nose to tail) the name of the plane, the number and the limit of the tail squares.
But I'm quit sure these Mustangs are in aluminium, wheathered alu, of course.

Wurger · 06-24-2008, 05:44 PM

Lucke.stz · 06-25-2008, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao-san

This one looks closer than the one above, the tail is in full marking.

This fighter group was very famous in the sky of Italy, and many pilots became aces with the Thunderbolts or Mustangs.
The clear painting zones were (from nose to tail) the name of the plane, the number and the limit of the tail squares.
But I'm quit sure these Mustangs are in aluminium, wheathered alu, of course.

Thanks Tao San

Seeing these profile I think that you are right... so now I cant start my new building... the P51C wih Chinese markings...

Thnaks for all helps !

You did a very nice research Job,

Best regards,

Lucas

Lucke.stz · 06-26-2008, 06:17 AM

Good News !!

Take a look at these pic

It's is probaly that I'm looking for !

The legend to this pic is this:

No. 205 of the 25th FS, P-51C-10-NT serial no. 42-103860, was named "My Mike" on both sides of the nose. Shown here flying near Yunnanyi, China, in June 1945, the plane was assigned to Lt. W.L. Peet, pilot, and Sgt. Dale Bleicke, crew chief. The markings are black checkers over natural metal, with a black fuselage band bordered in yellow.

51st Fighter Group in WWII

I think that the plane that I'm looking from these squadron, the band on the front of the checkers, and overall markins that was "overpainted"...

Thanks for all help !

Lucas