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Old 07-04-2006, 03:31 PM   #1
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Looking for photo of Ju 52/3m with Jumo 213 center engine

Good afternoon -

The book 'Junkers Ju 52 - Model Fan Encyclopaedia No. 4' includes drawings of Ju 52s that were used as test beds for the DB 600, DB 601 and Junker Jumo 213 engines. The test engines replaced the central BMW 132. I've contacted the publisher and have provided photos of the DB 600 and DB 601 and have requested a photo of the Ju 52/3m with Jumo 213 engine; however, no response as yet.

I've posted a number of photos of Ju 52s with interesting engine installations including the DB 600 and DB 601. I would very much appreciate it if someone would post a photo of the Ju 52 with Jumo 213 and any other atypical engine installation in service with Luftwaffe, Lufthansa or other airlines circa WWII.

Ju 52/3m with DB 600 at the Eastern front under field evaluation with mixed Luftwaffe and Junkers factory engineer crew.




Perhaps an earlier photo of the DB 600 test bed during early trials at the factory??


Ju 52/3m with DB 601 and 4-bladed prop.


Ju 52/3m with Jumo diesel ??


D-AWBR Ju 52/3m with BMW 132c high altitude radials and 3-bladed props.


Lufthansa Ju 52/3m ho with Jumo 205 diesel engines


In flight shot of Lufthansa Ju 52 with Jumo 205s


Ju 52 with Jumo Diesels at the factory




Luftwaffe Ju 52/3m with Brama 323 radials


Lufthansa Ju 52/3m de. Note early style external central engine exhausts.


Ju 52/3m de with cowlings.


Luftwaffe Ju 52/3m reo in France 1940


Ecuadoran AZUAY Ju 52/3m reo BMW 132 radials


Ju 52/3m operating with Streckenschule circa 1935. Note exhaust stack for night time flying.


Lufthansa - Eurasia Ju 52/3m ge with BMW 132 and 3 oil coolers




Luftwaffe Ju 52/3m "Night Moth" Eastern front. BMW 132 radials. Note shroud behind central engine to prevent oil from fowling the windscreen.


Romanian Ju 52/3m ba with Hispano Suiza liquid cooled engines








Romanian Ju 52/3m with BMW 132L radials (photo possibly taken late in the war and this is a captured aircraft)


Ala Littoria I-BIZI Ju 52/3m with Piaggio engines


I-BIZI after confiscation by Regia Aeronautica


Argentinian Ju 52 with PW engines and three-bladed props


Ju 52/3m ce with Pratt & Whitney Hornet radials and no cowlings.


Swedish Ju 52/3m with 550 HP Pratt & Whitney Wasp S3H2-G


Ju 52/3m with DC-2 engines and props. This is the first German aircraft captured by the U.S. and was designated the C-79. Captured and used in South America.


Ju 52/3m reo ?


I would appreciate any help Board members can give.

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Old 07-04-2006, 10:27 PM   #2
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Interesting stuff, Mike!
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Very interesting. Sorry, I cannot be of service. But I assume the DB600 tests didn't go so well ... it's crashed!
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cool pics!
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Interesting stuff Mike, I cannot help you either I'm afraid.
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A few more photos of Ju 52s

Good evening Gentlemen -

I am glad you found the Ju 52 photos interesting; I've posted a few more for your viewing pleasure.

Also, I've found a couple of photos on the web showing a British Airways Ju 52/3m however, the photos are watermarked. Does anyone have photos of British Airways Ju 52s that are unmarked?

Servicing BMW radials on Eastern front Ju 52s.


Note the construction of the engine covers.


Referring to the Ju 52 with DB 600 in the first post; actually collapsed landing gear due to hard landings were not uncommon with earlier Ju 52 versions. Late variants were fitted with beefed up struts. Note that this aircraft is being operated without engine covers on the front of the BMW radials.


Polish Airlines LOT Ju 52/3m with Bristol Pegasus radials.
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Lufthansa Ju 52/3m ho floatplane D-AQAR


Lufthansa Ju 52/3m reo D-AIAG "Olaf Bielensteind".


Lufthansa Ju 52/3m ge with BMW 132 radials. Photographed at LuftshiffeHalle Staaken.


Lufthansa Ju 52/3m D-ALUN 'Kurt Wintgens'.


Austrian Ju 52/3m with skis.


South African Airways Ju 52/3m with interesting diamond shaped radio antenna.


Condor Legion Ju 53/3m g3e "Zaragoza"; named after the Spanish city that was bombed by Condor Legion Ju 52s.


Ju 52/3m g3e frontal view showing bombadier's gondola.


Ju 52/3m g7e with Condor cupola without MG 15


Ju 52/3m at Cantania, Sicily. A different version of the engine shroud. Note oopening in the canopy for the Condor cupola.


An yet another shroud.....likely these were field modifications.......


Ju 52/3m with no central engine cowling. Open hatch with gun mount and MG.




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She looks a lot better with 3 Jumo 205s!
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Very nice pics. I have seem many of those but have not seen the ones with 600 and 601 engines until now. Thankyou for posting them.

I can not help you at the moment but will search and around and see if I can find what you are looking for.
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I'll try to find some but it will take a bit my computers on the fritz.
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ImageB 601 -1.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thats the engine. still looking for it in a plane.
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This is a new picture.

Yahoo! Image Detail for www.simonb6.co.uk/2002/BRUMUS-ZZ-JU52-2.jpg
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LOT Ju 52 with Bristol Pegasus engines

Hello Spitfireking -

Thanks very much for your efforts in tracking down the Ju 52 with Jumo 213 engine and for the links to the preserved Ju 52. I've posted another image below which may be of interest:

Polish LOT airlines Junkers Ju 52 with Bristol Pegasus engines and three-bladed props.


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Wow, I missed this one. Great pics.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:59 PM   #14
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Found another photo of an Italian Ju 52 with atypical engine installation....however, the cowlings don't look like Piaggios to me. I'm guessing maybe these are the BMW high altitude engine with 3-blade prop.

Any input about the engine type and ultimate fate of this aircraft would be appreciated.

Ala Littoria I-BOAN.



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Old 12-23-2006, 12:33 PM   #15
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Found these photos of a Russian Ju 252 with Jumo 213E central engine. Flugzeug 6/92. Makes me wonder if the Ju 52 with Jumo 213 is mythical..........





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