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Old 03-22-2005, 06:33 AM   #1
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Russian Spitfires

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I'm trying to build a plastic model of a Spitfire LF IX flied by russians but it's really difficult to find a picture....

Can somebody help me???

thank you a lot from spain....
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Old 03-22-2005, 08:51 AM   #2
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This is the only picture I could find of a Russian Spitfire, the website I got the picture from mentions both the VB & the IX, as my powers of Aircraft recognition are not great I am not sure which Mk it is.


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Old 03-23-2005, 05:10 AM   #3
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Thank you about the pic....

Its a VB because the wing... the IX is like...
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Old 03-23-2005, 01:46 PM   #4
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Yes but thats an IX with the clipped wing...Not all IX's had the Clipped wing
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Old 03-23-2005, 08:00 PM   #5
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Here's a clipped wing Russian Spit... unfortunately I'm sadly lacking in material on this subject.


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FYI, the model pictured above was built by a fella named Ilya Grinberg, with the base being done by yours truly...


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Old 02-22-2006, 07:56 PM   #6
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Hi Steve,

The model of Ilya Grinberg's Spitfire LF.IXE is absolutly beautiful!

I'm trying to find out some information as to the camo colors that where used on these aircraft for an 88" wing span Remote Controlled Spitfire that I'm currently building. Could you please forward my message to Ilya and ask him to contact me by e-mail at rlchubbjr@msn.com.

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Old 02-23-2006, 05:53 PM   #7
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Hi Bob C

I don't know if I'm able to help you but try the link:
http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Modeling/S...berg/index.php

and next :
http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/Modeling/S...berg/index.php
There are interesting descriptions.

The Spitfire is always beautiful,it doesn't matter in what camouflage.

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Old 02-24-2006, 12:21 AM   #8
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Hi Wurger,


Thanks for the links, it appears that the standard British Camo was used and the only modification to that was the white tail and spinner and the red stars.

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Old 02-24-2006, 09:07 AM   #9
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Hi !!!
It's true that Russians used Spits in standard RAF camouflage.I think that it is connected with their needs for planes during war. They had no time to repaint all aircrafts from both English and American supplies.However, there are photos that show repainted planes with Russian camo.
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Hi Wurger,

I've read accounts about this happening when the and if the aircraft made it back for it's regular maintenacne interval.

I'm currently looking for a very clear high resolution image of the Guard Emblem that is shown on the turtledeck of the #76 model that is pictured above, does anybody have a image of the Guard Emblem that they could scan and e-mail to me or post it to the list?

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Old 02-24-2006, 11:10 AM   #11
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You are welcome Bob C. If you are interested in The Russian Guard badge there is a n003lb post on it where you can find useful info.
The link is:
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3145
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Hi Wurger,

That emblem is very close, but if you look at the #78 aircraft shown above there is a difference with both the shape and the position of the flag. If anybody can has an image file that they could share with me which is oval in shape and the falg canted to the left it would be greatly appreaciated.

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Old 02-24-2006, 02:35 PM   #13
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You should also look at the Wings Palette site. There is the link:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/52/1/0
Could I ask you if you have the black & white photo of #78?
I've looked for ,but without success.From my point of view, we can decide which of shapes is correct only in this way.
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Old 02-24-2006, 08:20 PM   #14
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Hi Wurger,

No, I have not seen the original Black & White photo of the white 78. After I read through the text last night on Ilya's construction article, he mentioned the original photo of the white 78 shows it with the standard full length elliptical wings (not the clipped wings). I really would like to see the photo he was talking about for myself. I just purchased the 1/48 scale Baltic Fleet Aviation kit. The kit has a white 78 Spitfire Mk. LF IXE with clipped wings in the kit, so if anybody has access to the original Black & White photos of the white 78, please post them.

In one of the articles I read on the VVS Spitfires, it stated many of the aircraft delivered were comprised of salvaged parts so they could fill the order quickly. So, it is possible the original white 78 had the full length wings, Sure would like to see that photo.

I checked the color profiles and the decals that were included in my kit and all of the Guard Emblems look like the one you posted earlier, only the color profile of the white 78 shows the emblem oval with the flag shifted to the left? I am also starting to think that there my be something a little questionable about of the emblem shown on the white 78 color profile.

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Hello Wurger,

I was able to get a copy of the only known photo of the White 78. At that angle it is hard to verify if the wings are clipped or not? The complete photo is shown the book Red Stars.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/att...hmentid=114797

The aircraft is recorded as being a Spitfire LF.IXE, can anybody tell me if all Spitfire LF.IXE models had clipped wings or not?

Does anybody have a copy of the Gvardia Badge in a book that they could post or e-mail to me as a high resolution JPG? I've only found it listed on the web as a bright gold pin...urrrr. I need it to make a big 4" high decal.

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