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    P-61 Black Widow requested pics

    The Black Widow is my favorite plane, but trying to find some modern pics of this plane has been a problem for me. If anyone could help me out that would be great. I know that only a handful still exist. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks in advance!
    Bryon.

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    I love the P-61 myself. Here are a couple pics.
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    Thanks Thorlifter!
    Bryon O.


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    Bryon why would you choose the Widow as your fav a/c ?
    Rip it up !

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    I can't say really. Not much combat time, performance results are average. I guess I just think it looks cool I guess. Must be the forked tail as I also like the P-38.
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    The P-61 is among my favorites as well. One of my Dad's uncles maintained Black Widows for a brief time,
    late-war and post-war.

    Here's a few views of the NASM bird. The first four, taken during re-hanging of the port engine, were sent
    to me by an acquaintance... the last one is from the NASM online 'press-room'...












    Images showing the bird at the NMUSAF can be found HERE.

    Photos of the Beijing example can be found HERE.


    And lastly, but not leastly... MAAM's bird, being restored to airworthy...

    The Widow's Web


    A few additional views of all four survivors can be found on Airliners.net and MyAviation.net.
    (Specific search results on MyAviation cannot be linked, so just do a search for 'P-61' under 'Aircraft'.)

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    I love that plane.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22 View Post
    I love that plane.
    Me two ....I know it was not the best but a lot of the planes I like were duds..LOL...

    So any info on how the P-61 got to China...????..

    Went by a antique shop today and they had a P-61 model in the box for $8.00 ..The box was a good 18 inches plus long good size ...Almost got it ...I'm just not a modeler..I was thinking of you model perverts on there ..LOL..
    Last edited by Haztoys; 05-24-2008 at 07:47 PM.

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    Holy crap! Dang....I bet someone would've paid you $15 (plus shipping) for that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haztoys View Post
    So any info on how the P-61 got to China...????..
    Uncle Sam sent it over in 1944 or 1945 and, although there are conflicting stories as to the how and why,
    it never came home...

    Anyhoo, she is a P-61B, serial number 42-39715, and she undoubtedly served with either the 426th or
    427th NFS... with the latter being a good bet, if at least one of those aforementioned conflicting stories
    is to be believed. Here's a quote from Wiki or some other site:

    The official story is that one of the P-61s that were based in Sichuan Province during the war was
    turned over to the Chendu Institute of Aeronautical Engineering in 1947. When the Institute moved to
    its present location, it did not take the plane with them, instead it was shipped to the Beijing Institute
    of Aeronautical Engineering in 1954. As both USAAF night fighter squadrons (426th, 427th) that served
    in China were inactivated in 1945, this may not be accurate.An alternate explanation is that at the end
    of hostilities in 1945, the 427th was in the process of bringing their various detachments back to a
    central airfield for disposition of the aircraft and to start processing home. At one of the satellite airfields
    there were three P-61s, two in need of maintenance. Reportedly some Chinese communist troops came
    onto the field and ordered the Americans to leave, but to leave their aircraft behind.


    I'm sure someday the truth will come to light... and then maybe not. Whatever the case may be, it would
    be pretty groovy if someone could manage to acquire this bird and bring it back to the USA. Or, as an
    alternative, I've read that the Chinese claim to have two more P-61s in storage, and have offered them
    for sale for a couple MIL$. Dunno how true that is... if it's on the level, and if there's more than just a
    pile-o-parts, maybe some insanely rich wing-nut like Paul Allen will jump at the chance.

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    thirtybg, thanks for the pics and the info. I want to see one a P-61 in person sometime. I also wonder how many more planes (not just P-61's) are still overseas waiting someone to buy them and bring them home.
    Bryon O.


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    The Mid-Atlantic Air Museum is currently rebuilding a P-61 back to flight status. I was in Reading, Pa. a few years back before I knew of this project so I did not get a chance to go look at her. I'll be keeping an eye out for when she is airworthy and I'm sure she will visit the Oshkosh EAA show when done.

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    I found the MAAM on the internet a few years ago. I drop in on that site every once in a while.
    Bryon O.


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