 | Acknowledgement of photo sources| Aircraft Pictures Discuss Acknowledgement of photo sources in the World War II - Aviation forums; I apparently don't have the permissions needed. I will email David.
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02-10-2006, 04:54 PM
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#31 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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02-10-2006, 05:18 PM
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#32 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Yes, I'm getting this message now when I try to link to it! Quote:
General Error
This pic does not exist
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02-10-2006, 05:34 PM
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#33 | | Minister of Whoopass
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I object strongly to the misuse of the results of my long research into recording the history of brave young men who fought for freedom over 60 years ago. I would have thought that their history deserved more respect than to be filched without permission and without attribution.
| Sounds like someones either alittle insecure or completely and totally in love with himself... Misuse???? Gimme a freakin break... Its called educating the masses.... But now that the pic is gone, we can lock this BS thread and move on....
BTW, the dudes site sucks anyways...
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02-10-2006, 05:35 PM
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#34 | | Junior Member
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| I'd like to thank Kiwimac for his civil and constructive reply. Caught with your hand in the cookie jar, there are two options: go ape, or say gee sorry, we'll fix it. Thanks, Kiwimac.
Ignoring all the bull posted previously, all you need to do is follow your own site's rules, and follow the rules of any site you find interesting stuff on, and you'll get on fine.
In this case, all that was needed was to
1. ask my permission (my rules) and
2. cite my site and the original pic title and source (your rules).
The image debated here, taken by a Bristol staff photographer c1936, would have been Bristol Aeroplane Co copyright, falling out of copyright in 1996. My original title and source acknowledge that, to anyone who grasps copyright. In addition of course I had Len's permission to use his print. The Title itself and the extended caption are my original work and hence copyright until 2050 somep'n.
So the beef isn't about copyright as such. It's about courtesy and researchability. In acknowledging sources, you open the doors to further research and pay due respect to the work done by others. Without it: well, you just get guys good and mad.
To repeat: anyone wanting to use stuff from my site needs to ask my permission first. Piece of cake.
Th..th..th...that's all folks!
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02-10-2006, 05:41 PM
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#35 | | Minister of Whoopass
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The image debated here, taken by a Bristol staff photographer c1936, would have been Bristol Aeroplance Co copyright, falling out of copyright in 1996. My original title and source acknowledge that, to anyone who grasps copyright. In addition of course I had Len's permission to use his print. The Title itself and the extended caption are my original work and hence copyright until 2050 somep'n.
So the beef isn't about copyright as such. It's about courtesy and researchability. In acknowledging sources, you open the doors to further research and pay due respect to the work done by others. Without it: well, you just get guys good and mad.
To repeat: anyone wanting to use stuff from my site needs to ask my permission first. Piece of cake.
| Blah blah blah blah blah.... Im not civil or constructive.... We have it posted on our site about the rules.... Enough said.... The fact that u dont own the copyright to said picture makes this whole freakin subject moot....
Lockin this one up, waste of O2 anyways...
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02-10-2006, 05:45 PM
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#36 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Don Clark I gather he is an ex-serviceman himself, with an interest in WW2 aviation. | What is your point. I am a service member. What does being a service member have to do with anything?
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02-10-2006, 05:47 PM
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#37 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Well, I certainly tried. But I will go on record here and state that because you do not own the copyright on that photo and as you stated, it has fallen out of copyright, you do not own the image. So why all the fuss? It was ONE image out of thousands on this site. No one is making a profit from it and it was put there for others to see and/or use as an informational tool.
You might do yourself a favor and put your we address on the image so that people know where it came from. It doesn't have to be very big and it will not detract from the picture if place in the proper place.
To say that we were like a child with a hand in the cookie jar is just tripe. No one claimed the image as theirs and since it is NOT under any copyright, it is de facto public domain. You cannot claim that something that is not your property as stolen.
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