CAPTURED AIRCRAFT - ODD PHOTOS

drgondog · 01-01-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Single-Handed-Sailor

I share my photo collection how I see fit, on the net and in print. The more folks who get to see this kind of thing, the better. That is what is most important to me, and that is why I choose to post some of my collection on the internet. Please do not misunderstand; I do not mind that people take images I have posted on the net and post them elsewhere, so long as credit is given. It's a very simple and plain matter of courtesy. If you find an image on the internet, or take it from another source, such as a book or magazine, and present it elsewhere, the least you can do is mention the source.

The bottom line is the fact that the individual who posted the image here in this thread should have stated that he found it on a given website or forum, but did not. If he could not remember where it was found, this should have been stated. Again, it's a matter of courtesy. And again, I'm not angry about this, just a tad miffed. I merely wish to see that credit is given where it is due.

I have basically the same philosophy regarding my own 2000 plus photo collection of 355Fg and Scout Force. In the photo image upload I put in the 355th FG section here, you can see that I am meticulous about crediting the original source (to me). Most are USAAF/USAF property if one were to dive deep into 'original' copyright...

I have had a few unscrupulous folks use my material and research w/o credit but at the end of the day I don't really care.

drgondog · 01-01-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by evangilder

I posted my Captured Eagles presentation write-up a while back. Here are some pictures I used for the presentation. These are collected from a variety of sources.

Below is 358FS/355FG YF-U Beele flown by Bill Roach and Walt Kossack's YF-X the day they was captured (November 7, 1943). The bottom photo was after the LW repainted it in US colors for a propganda film. These two ships were two of four that ran out of fuel extending too far to cover a bomb group under attack.

Both Kossack and Roach spent rest of war as POW's

Joe- on your F4U - it was captured by Japanese and transported via sub.

On the B-17s I believe the D was captured at Java, not the Phillipines and I have no idea regarding the B-17E's but we lost a few at Truk for sure. Maybe they were repaired... I don't believe the 19th BG had B-17Es in Phillipines - only at Port Moresby and Guadalcanal?

R Leonard · 01-06-2008, 06:19 PM

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Joe- on your F4U - it was captured by Japanese and transported via sub.

You mean the one way back in the very first post??

Exactly which submarine did the Japanese carve up in order to stuff even pieces of an F4U . . . and can you cite a TROM to go along with your statement?

Micdrow · 01-06-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leonard

You mean the one way back in the very first post??

Exactly which submarine did the Japanese carve up in order to stuff even pieces of an F4U . . . and can you cite a TROM to go along with your statement?

The only japanese sub that I can think of that would even come close to carrying an aircraft as big as a corsair would be the I-400 series submarine.

Wurger · 01-06-2008, 06:50 PM

Like this one.

source: Varifrank: History file Archives

R Leonard · 01-06-2008, 07:18 PM

None of which ever made it to Germany

v2 · 01-16-2008, 03:00 PM

Siebel Si 204D captured by the Russians

Aaron Brooks Wolters · 03-01-2008, 01:19 PM

I realize I am late on this but that is a B-17, probably one of the first squadron to be shipped to the Pacific Theater that would make it a B model witch did not have a tail gun. They looked a lot like the prototype.

HealzDevo · 03-03-2008, 01:42 AM

I must remember to look at some stage because I have some other interesting odd ones somewhere...

kool kitty89 · 04-21-2008, 01:29 PM

No the B17 C and D had that tail too, w/out tail gunner and with no ball turret.

v2 · 06-15-2008, 09:45 AM

This is from Luftwaffe im Focus 3/2003

During campaigns in Norway and France, the Luftwaffe captured an unknown number of Curtiss H75A fighters. At least six of these aircraft were sent directly to Rechlin for testing. Other Curtiss fighters were assigned to III./JG 77, which, following the campaign in Norway was based at Döberitz to protect the capital. The newly-formed 7. Staffel flew the Curtiss fighters as operational aircraft in September and October 1940. Their value as combat aircraft was virtualy nil, however, as the lack of ammunition belts for the aircraft's machine-guns prevented them from being armed. In early November 1940, therefore, 7. Staffel re-equiped with the BF 109E-7. After the failure of the experiment of using the aircraft as an operational type, a handful were transferred to the Replacement Training Fighter Gruppe in Merseburg and to JFS 1, a fighter training school based in Werneuchen. The bulk of captured Curtiss fighters were sold to Finland in the second half of 1941. Our photograph depicts one of the Curtiss H75A fighters sent to JFS 1 in Werneuchen. When the photoghraph was taken is unknown. Note the previously unidentified ''Walking Stick and Top Hat'' emblem. This emblem was used by JFS 1, however only a few of the school's aircraft are known to have worn it in 1941 (Ar 96 and Bf 109D). Unfortunately, no further information concerning the origins or significance of the emblem has so far come to light. To date, only one Curtiss H75A, coded +68 is known to have been at Werneuchen, the information coming from a pilot's logbook.