 | Duxford Flying Legends 2005| Aircraft Pictures Discuss Duxford Flying Legends 2005 in the World War II - Aviation forums; Nice Hurricane shots! Your clips aren't bad, trackend. With some practice, it will get even better.... |
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07-11-2005, 11:51 AM
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#76 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Nice Hurricane shots! Your clips aren't bad, trackend. With some practice, it will get even better. 
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07-11-2005, 11:55 AM
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#77 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Well they can't get much worse Evan it looks like I was filming while competing in a Rodeo 
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07-11-2005, 12:02 PM
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#78 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Here's the PBV-1A 'Canso' - I don't know much about the Catalina and Canso - is the Canso just a Canadian built Catalina?
I don't know but it was a great show by the Canso. Switching from floats to gear - as well as while running up right in front of me, the whole tail section was shaking like mad.
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07-11-2005, 12:07 PM
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#79 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | love it! I have always liked the Catalina.
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07-11-2005, 12:20 PM
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#80 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Here's the beautiful Princess Elizabeth -
I have a problem naming the Mustangs because I have the list of the types shown and their # - but not their name. So, I can't seperate the Ds - maybe you know the different ones, evan...if I gave you the list would you be able to put their name to me?
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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#81 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I can certainly give it a try.
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07-11-2005, 12:30 PM
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#82 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Well, here's the list -
P-51C-20 #43-25147 'Princess Elizabeth'
P-51D-20 #44-63864
P-51D-25 #44-73877
P-51D-25 #44-73149
P-51D-25 #44-72773
P-51D-25 #44-72917
The P-51C was easy because it's the only one! The others I just don't know - I could tell you who they belong to, if that would help.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 12:33 PM
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#83 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | That might, also the fuselage codes. Sometimes the serials are originial, but the paints schemes are not. Sometimes they change the serials to match the paint scheme, some don't. Makes for some confusion.
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07-11-2005, 12:39 PM
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#84 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I noticed that - let me see how many fuselage codes I've got because I'll be taking them from my pictures. Those up there are the originals of the actual aircraft because the real Princess Elizabeth was actually a P-51B so it can't be the original code - obviously.
I've worked out - well, I saw it...the # is the one painted on the aircraft 'Suzy'
But here are the ones I still don't know which one is which because in the pictures it's not painted with the proper code...
P-51D-20 #44-63864 Owned by The Fighter Collection
P-51D-25 #44-73877 Owned by Scandanavian Historic Flight
P-51D-25 #44-73149 Owned by Old Flying Machine Company
P-51D-25 #44-72917 Owned by Rob Davies
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 12:42 PM
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#85 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Here's Susy #44-72773 -
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 12:45 PM
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#86 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | P-51C-20 #43-25147 'Princess Elizabeth'
History / Previous Identities:
197?: Restoration as "Shangri-La", Pete Regina
06/11/81: Test flown by Dave Zeuschel
1982: First B model to race at Reno Air Races since '48
1986: The Believer, racer # 97, Joseph Kasparoff
1996: Princess Elizabeth, Stephen Grey, The Fighter Collection - England
1997 June: P-51 is crated and shipped to England.
1998 July: Disassembly and parts inspection begins.
1998 November: P-51 shipped back to US for further restoration work.
2002: shipped back to England for assembly
will probably be painted as before "Princess Elizabeth" P-51D-20 #44-63864 'Twilight Tear'
History / Previous Identities:
44-63864: Delivered USAAF 12/14/44
WWII Vet: "Twilight Tear" coded HL W,
pilot Hubert Davis, Duxford, England
3 confirmed kills: 2 Me262, 1 Me109
1948 June: RSwAF 26158 F16 coded rD, gK
1953: Sold Israel as IDFAF 3506
Another P-51 (N251L) in Israel was sold with an id of 44-63864, then crashed in Iceland on return to USA. Owner Bill Lear and the pilot were killed.
At some point 44-63864(#1) was registered 4X-AIM in Israel. Upon arrival in Sweden, the paint was stripped, Swedish markings were found on the wings and in the tail the placard with the RSwAF number of 26158.
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2002: March/April - 44-63864 sold to the Fighter Collection of Duxford. Will be ferried (flown) to the UK in early April 02.
2002: registered G-CBNM
2003: flying as "Twilight Tear", former WWII 78th FG colors. P-51D-25 #44-73877 'Old Crow'
History / Previous Identities:
1951: RCAF 9279
1958: N6320T
1960: CF-PCZ (Neil McClain)
1968: N167F (Paul Finefrock)
1980: (Anders Saether)
restoration by Vintage Aircraft of Ft. Collins
1985: finished restoration as "Old Crow", first flight by Anders Saether
1999: repainted as "Detroit Miss" E2 D
2001: repainted as "Old Crow" Olive Drab (thanks to Steve Huckvale for info) P-51D-25 #44-73149 'Ferocious Frankie'
History / Previous Identities:
1945: US training units
There is a report that states this P-51 served with the 357th FG
1947: RCAF 9568, Suffield Alberta
(part of the first delivery batch to Canada)
1960: N6340T
1962: NL6320T, restoration, Aerosport at Chino CA (Ernest Beehler)
1974: racer #7 "Candyman" (red w/ white stripe) (Charles Beck)
1980: overhaul in Oakland Ca prior to ferry flight to Switzerland by John Crocker
1981: "Moose"/"Candyman"
1986: N51JJ (John Crocker)
1991: G-BTCD (The Fighter Collection)
1999: (Mark Hanna) new paint job
2002: new paint as "Ferocious Frankie" 44-13704,B7 H P-51D-25 #44-72773 'Susy'
History / Previous Identities:
1951 - USAF Tactical Air Command
131st Fighter Squadron, George AFB California 1954 - 182nd Fighter Squadron,
Texas Air National Guard, Brooks AFB, SAn Antonio 1958: Nicaragua GN 120
1963: N12066 (Will Martin)
1966: (I. Burchinall Jr)
1985: (Bob Ferguson)
1986: G-SUSY (Charles Church) England
1990: (Paul Morgan) P-51D-25 #44-72917 'Big Beautiful Doll'
History / Previous Identities:
8 March, 1951: Commenwealth Aircraft Corporation
1951: RAAF
1958: VH-FCB (F.C. Braund)
1961: (Jack McDonald)
1969: PI-C651 Philippines (Prontino Inc.)
1973: crashed on landing, rebuilt using 44-72917 (ex-Phillippine AF P-51)
1981: VR-HIU (Hong Kong)
1985: rebuilt "CV H" , shipped to UK
1985: G-HAEC, "Ding Hao", "Missy Wong from Hong Kong", "RAAF A68-192"
Whew! All of this info comes from the mustangsmustangs.net website.
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07-11-2005, 12:50 PM
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#87 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Thanks a lot - that's excellent. Exactly what I wanted. 
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 12:58 PM
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#88 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Here they are, properly named...thanks to evan. 
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-11-2005, 01:02 PM
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#89 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Glad I could help. Great shots!
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07-11-2005, 01:30 PM
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#90 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | That last one is great! 
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