Fw 190 Picture - Aircraft of World War II

beaupower32 · 07-23-2009, 02:12 PM

I have looked around the internet and this is the only photo I can find of this Fw 190. Anyone have any Info on it. It appears to have 2 Air intakes on the engine nacell. Was this a one time deal, or were several produced. Or, could this be a Trop version. What would be the advantages of this. Sorry for the many questions guys. Here is the link I got the photo from. Lots of good pictures here.

German Air Force Pictures

Dark Matter · 07-23-2009, 02:20 PM

Its a FW190-F2Trop-14s or somthing.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 02:34 PM

Sorry Silverfish, it is not. I'm not 100% sure, but I'll look into it right now. I think it's a Fw 190C though, which never entered production.

EDIT: Whoops, def not a C. This is a C.

Regardless, the picture that you posted is a prototype. Maybe Wurger will be able to help, though I'll keep looking.

beaupower32 · 07-23-2009, 02:38 PM

Here is another photo with the same intakes. I might be wrong but this looks like a F-8 with the underwing racks. Again im probably wrong, as I dont know much about Fw190's. Could this infact be a Trop version.

Here is another one. Hmmm, pretty intresting none the less.

I dont think these were prototypes, again I could be wrong. Dang, thats been happening alot lately.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 02:39 PM

Actually, I think I found it. Without being able to see either the tail or the cowling gun covers, I think it is this:

Fw 190A-3/U7 - attempt to create a new high altitude fighter, with reduced weight, with armament consisting of only two MG 151/20 E cannons. Only three planes built (W.Nr. 130528, -530 and -531); they can be recognized by external charger air inlets on both engine cowling sides.

From IPMS Stockholm.

EDIT: Posts clashed. Hmm, I have no idea. Are there any other photos showing the tail? That would allow me to determine if it's an F or G, or if it's the variant I posted. But you're right, they look operational.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 02:48 PM

After looking at picture 2 blown up in post 4, the bird behind the one in front doesn't have the inlets on the side of the cowling.

beaupower32 · 07-23-2009, 02:51 PM

This is about as close to the tail that I can find so far. Still looking though. Yep, your right. It doesnt have the inlets.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 02:54 PM

That's good enough, thanks for hunting it down. A-3s and older had a flat type aerial mast on the tail, where as A-4 and newer had a pointed one, like in the photo, and to boot it has the later style bulged gun cover over the cowling. This just stumps me, as I've never seen that before.

Also from IPMS Stockholm.

The URL of the image says it's an A-5. I forgot I had a couple books in PDF on the Fw 190 on my computer, I will have a look.

Dark Matter · 07-23-2009, 02:54 PM

Looks like an early version to me.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 02:58 PM

"Early" is a loose term when it comes to Fw 190s. A's were produced from the truly early A-0 through A-9, with the A-9 being produced through the end of the war.

It would also appear they are all different versions, as the cowling covers are different.

Dark Matter · 07-23-2009, 03:04 PM

The early versions had a shorter engine placement.

Catch22 · 07-23-2009, 03:08 PM

Yes, that is the original version, though even with the advent of the D, the A's were produced through the end of the war, so there are later versions of those as well.

They're dust filters! I don't know why I didn't think of that. I found a bunch of pictures in the Kagero books which I will post once I'm done finding them all.

beaupower32 · 07-23-2009, 03:12 PM

From IPMS Stockholm

As you can see silverfish, there is some differences between the 190's but the cowling has pretty much stayed the same through out all the designs. Are you thinking of the Dora and Ta152? I dont know why I didnt think of dust filters. So would that mean these are Trops?

Dark Matter · 07-23-2009, 03:15 PM

It says here:

"The A-5 was developed after it was determined that the Fw 190 could easily carry more ordnance. The engine was moved forward by 15 cm (6 in)."

Dark Matter · 07-23-2009, 03:16 PM

Yes it is a trop.

07-23-2009, 02:12 PM	#1
beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 721	Fw 190 Picture I have looked around the internet and this is the only photo I can find of this Fw 190. Anyone have any Info on it. It appears to have 2 Air intakes on the engine nacell. Was this a one time deal, or were several produced. Or, could this be a Trop version. What would be the advantages of this. Sorry for the many questions guys. Here is the link I got the photo from. Lots of good pictures here. German Air Force Pictures __________________ The four elements: Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Of these, I call your attention to two: Air and Fire. Though it is your privilege to live in the air, you will die by fire.

07-23-2009, 02:34 PM	#3
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Sorry Silverfish, it is not. I'm not 100% sure, but I'll look into it right now. I think it's a Fw 190C though, which never entered production. EDIT: Whoops, def not a C. This is a C. Regardless, the picture that you posted is a prototype. Maybe Wurger will be able to help, though I'll keep looking. __________________ Last edited by Catch22; 07-23-2009 at 02:36 PM.

07-23-2009, 02:38 PM	#4
beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 721	Here is another photo with the same intakes. I might be wrong but this looks like a F-8 with the underwing racks. Again im probably wrong, as I dont know much about Fw190's. Could this infact be a Trop version. Here is another one. Hmmm, pretty intresting none the less. I dont think these were prototypes, again I could be wrong. Dang, thats been happening alot lately. __________________ The four elements: Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Of these, I call your attention to two: Air and Fire. Though it is your privilege to live in the air, you will die by fire. Last edited by beaupower32; 07-23-2009 at 02:41 PM.

07-23-2009, 02:39 PM	#5
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Actually, I think I found it. Without being able to see either the tail or the cowling gun covers, I think it is this: Fw 190A-3/U7 - attempt to create a new high altitude fighter, with reduced weight, with armament consisting of only two MG 151/20 E cannons. Only three planes built (W.Nr. 130528, -530 and -531); they can be recognized by external charger air inlets on both engine cowling sides. From IPMS Stockholm. EDIT: Posts clashed. Hmm, I have no idea. Are there any other photos showing the tail? That would allow me to determine if it's an F or G, or if it's the variant I posted. But you're right, they look operational. __________________ Last edited by Catch22; 07-23-2009 at 02:42 PM.

07-23-2009, 02:48 PM	#6
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	After looking at picture 2 blown up in post 4, the bird behind the one in front doesn't have the inlets on the side of the cowling. __________________

07-23-2009, 02:20 PM	#2
Dark Matter Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 382	Its a FW190-F2Trop-14s or somthing.

07-23-2009, 02:51 PM	#7
beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 721	This is about as close to the tail that I can find so far. Still looking though. Yep, your right. It doesnt have the inlets. __________________ The four elements: Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Of these, I call your attention to two: Air and Fire. Though it is your privilege to live in the air, you will die by fire.

07-23-2009, 02:54 PM	#8
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	That's good enough, thanks for hunting it down. A-3s and older had a flat type aerial mast on the tail, where as A-4 and newer had a pointed one, like in the photo, and to boot it has the later style bulged gun cover over the cowling. This just stumps me, as I've never seen that before. Also from IPMS Stockholm. The URL of the image says it's an A-5. I forgot I had a couple books in PDF on the Fw 190 on my computer, I will have a look. __________________

07-23-2009, 02:58 PM	#10
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	"Early" is a loose term when it comes to Fw 190s. A's were produced from the truly early A-0 through A-9, with the A-9 being produced through the end of the war. It would also appear they are all different versions, as the cowling covers are different. __________________

07-23-2009, 03:04 PM	#11
Dark Matter Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 382	The early versions had a shorter engine placement.

07-23-2009, 03:08 PM	#12
Catch22 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 4,293	Yes, that is the original version, though even with the advent of the D, the A's were produced through the end of the war, so there are later versions of those as well. They're dust filters! I don't know why I didn't think of that. I found a bunch of pictures in the Kagero books which I will post once I'm done finding them all. __________________

07-23-2009, 03:12 PM	#13
beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 721	From IPMS Stockholm As you can see silverfish, there is some differences between the 190's but the cowling has pretty much stayed the same through out all the designs. Are you thinking of the Dora and Ta152? I dont know why I didnt think of dust filters. So would that mean these are Trops? __________________ The four elements: Earth, Air, Water, and Fire. Of these, I call your attention to two: Air and Fire. Though it is your privilege to live in the air, you will die by fire.

07-23-2009, 03:15 PM	#14
Dark Matter Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 382	It says here: "The A-5 was developed after it was determined that the Fw 190 could easily carry more ordnance. The engine was moved forward by 15 cm (6 in)." Last edited by Dark Matter; 07-23-2009 at 03:18 PM.

07-23-2009, 03:16 PM	#15
Dark Matter Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 382	Yes it is a trop.

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