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Old 08-18-2006, 12:16 AM   #1
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Help ID'ing a plane

I took a picture of this airplane at Chino in June and can be darned if I can figure out what it is. Looks kind of like a Waco, but the enclosed cockpit is throwing me off. Anyone?
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:55 AM   #2
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There was a Waco with an enclosed cockpit but it wasn't a single cockpit



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It is indeed a Waco, here is a picture taken in Vancouver, Canada of the same aircraft in your shot Evan.

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Thanks for trying, but the one you posted is a YPF with an enclosed rear cockpit. The one I posted is a single seater. It could be a modified YPF or UPF, but something doesn't quite look right for it to be one of those.
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Old 08-18-2006, 07:57 AM   #4
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Evan,

The second picture i posted is the SAME aircraft.

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It's not though. The cowling on the one I posted is dimpled, while the one you posted in smooth. There is also a front cockpit in the one you posted which isn't there on the one in Chino.
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I'm not going to decide either way. But they do look very similar. Except, as Eric pointed out, the first has dimples on the cowling. And the paint jobs are very slightly different, the second has no black rim on the tail like the first does. And the props on the first have bands painted on them.

But I don't know anything - so I'll back out ... now.
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Eric the planes to me look the same other than the cowling like you mentioned. You would know better than me but is it not possible just the cowling was changed for some reason?

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they're not exactily the same aircraft as, like evan says, the second one does have a small cockpit forward of the rear one, but i think you're proberly right evan in saying your one is a modified YPF or UFF because they look identical in every other respect.......
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do you recall if the a/c had a an access panel on the starboard side possibly used for mail I am thinking it might have been designed as mail plane from the 20s or 30s
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A modified Waco S2HD?
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Not sure on either, guys. I will lok for it again the next time I am down that way. Probably best to ask the actual owner, and get the N number registration. It does have similarities to the one Kiwi posted, but there are some subtle differences, so I am still unsure.
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