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I have tryed to find more images of the Spit with this yellow ring around the ...
I have tryed to find more images of the Spit with this yellow ring around the roundel and I have to agree with you on this that the black is hard to pick up in the artist profiles. so I salute my hat to you. and I have made a change on my org image so to keep with the history of the markings of the Spitfire. you got to keep me honest on this as Im no expert. So I thank you! but I do have a question about the yellow ring, seems its only on warbirds in defence of Great britain. is this true? was it added during the war as I dont see it post WW2. thanks again Wolf
Hallo GW,
As you know RAF camo patterns and markings were determinated by strict rules.This topic is enough huge to write a book on that.But I can do it in a short way.
The first period to December 1939- A type of roundels on fuselage,no yellow ring around the roundel,no fin flash,no roundels on undersides its camo patterns were Day-Night (left half of undersides was painted black and the right one white the borderline was the main axis of plane looking from under), Day-Night-Aluminium - like previous camo but the wings were Black-White painted only,the rest of fuselage undersides was paintad with silver colour.
the second period from December 1939 to May 1940 - A type roundels on fuselage (and undersides - Units in France only),no yellow outline around the marks,fin flash on fins,
On 1st of May 1940 introduced the A1 roundel type on fuselages. It was A type one with yellow ring.The marks were paited on fuselages with fin flash on fins.
On 15th of May 1940 The A type roundel was introduced on undersides.Because wings in that time were painted with Day-Night camo pattern, the A roundel on left half of wings got the yellow ring and looked like A1 roundel but the difference was the yellow ring which was thinner than the A1 standard outline.These markings were used up to 6.06.1940 when the new camo pattern for undersides was introduced.
6.06.1940 - 1.08.1940 without the undersides roundels ,then once again ordered to paint the A type roundels without the yellow ring on undersides.Besides it was introduced a new width of fin flash stripes.
On 27th of November 1940 once again the black left underside of wings was introduced and the A type roundel again got the yellow thin ring.
On 15th of April 1941 ordered to paint undersides with roundels A type like the order from 1.08.1940 said.
On 15th of May 1942 new markings were ordered.These were C and C1(with yellow ring) and fin flash - a square 24"x24" or 24"x18" or 24"x36" and B type roundels on upper sides of wings.These all markings had the white colour reduced in order to make aiming harder.
The next a small correction introduced to roundels was the order from 3th of January 1945 when the B type roundel on upper surfaces of wings was replaced by C type.This order was issued for the all aircraft of the Second TAF in Europe.And these markings were used in postwar period but when there were introduced changes I cannot to tell you because I don't know simply.
I hope I've answered to your questions mostly.There I uploaded examples of markings used with Spits.All the pic come from SAM publications Modellers Datafile no.3
Oh yes this one is called Honor , This is an image I did to show the respect
that the airmen on both side have for each other. I tryed to give that Italy look but Im not sure about the red dirt. but what the hell its something to
pull on your imagination. can you use this to print? you may be able to put to disc and take to a photo shop to enlarge and poster print.
I want to thank all of you for your comments and for Wungers help on the roundel markings. I really think Im going to like this site. alot of great people
with a wealth of infomation. Thanks again
Salute Wolf
PS. If its ok with you all I would like to post some more of my images for
all to download and enjoy on the PC.
To be honest I don't have any info on that.For sure it wasn't unit markings.For this were the code letters on fuselages.But for sure black and white painted undersurfaces were a kind of IFF for AAA.I have to go through some books.If I find something I let you know.
'In combat I make all my motions unconsciously.
This lets me concentrate fully on the attack,
and fly my plane as though I had wings.'
Hans-Joachim 'Jochen' Marseille
Dude, Ill tell ya, I dont copy much in the way of wallpapers off the internet, but Ive copied atleast 10 of these for my screensaver/wallpaper collection... I really like ur sh!t....
Wolf, these are some awesome pics! I'm not well versed with markings but my little bit....the cannabilzed 109 you might want to add some junk laying around the plane for realism. I'm sure they weren't that clean while doing that stuff.
Thanks guys I really appreaciate the kind words. as for the 109, its a model a friend did and ask me to set it in a country back drop as it turns out this 109 was abandoned in poland and Ill need to find the arcive shot that looks almost like this as he ask the plane was stripe and thats what was in the org photo taken. so its as historic as I could make it.
Mind you I did this with out this org photo as it turn out I had posted this in a forum and someone found this image and to my suprise I had see this pretty close in my on mind. the org has some part and alot of dead brush but ,hey for a first shot
image I think it came out close useing just my friend info on this 109.
'In combat I make all my motions unconsciously.
This lets me concentrate fully on the attack,
and fly my plane as though I had wings.'
Hans-Joachim 'Jochen' Marseille
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if
they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.]
Marines don't have that problem."
-- Ronald Reagan
'In combat I make all my motions unconsciously.
This lets me concentrate fully on the attack,
and fly my plane as though I had wings.'
Hans-Joachim 'Jochen' Marseille
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