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09-09-2006, 10:00 PM
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Lancaster fun and fun it was. I was lucky enough this year to climb aboard the Candian Lancaster. What a magnificant bird. Here are some pics of her both on the inside and out. One point. Pictures dont show the awsomeness of this bird or the history behind it.
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09-09-2006, 11:50 PM
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#2 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Very cool. Although I always laugh to see a Garmin GPS on the instrument panel of these old warbirds. 
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09-09-2006, 11:55 PM
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09-10-2006, 12:50 AM
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#4 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I agree, but it still looks funny next to all the vintage instruments. It certainly does beat the old navigation method. "Bring out the sextant"!
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09-10-2006, 02:43 AM
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#5 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | the GPS was only recently aquired by them in the last couple of years, they still use maps to double check their posistion, the BBMF still navigate solely by maps, compas and stopwatch, hence they carry a specialist navigator, the red arrows do the same during their display, their entire displays are done with a map and stopwatch- not easy when you're pulling moves like that it really is amazing...........
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09-10-2006, 07:00 AM
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Country:  | England is a tiny country in land mass it would be pretty hard to get lost . Do the Red Arrows really have a Navigator 
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09-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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Country: | They certainly don't use GPS, it is all maps and stopwatch...
Cool pics Micdrow.
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09-10-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gnomey They certainly don't use GPS, it is all maps and stopwatch...
Cool pics Micdrow. | I'd actually really be depressed if they had to use maps during their display mind you it would be spectacular 
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09-10-2006, 02:19 PM
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#9 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | no that's exactily what we're saying, the red arrows don't use navigators or GPS, their ferry flights and their entire routine is all done by the pilots with maps and stopwatches, quite amazing how they manage it all.......
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09-10-2006, 03:45 PM
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Country: | I'd really be impressed if they flew their routine with maps (not the routine cards) there would be black smoking holes allover the place
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09-11-2006, 12:58 AM
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Just ordered a copy of "The Lancaster Manual". Only cost one arm and 1/2 a leg.
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09-11-2006, 06:09 AM
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Country: | I renew my Lancaster manual to the local library every 3 weeks.... Every now and again they ask me to lend it them for a while..
It works for me... 
It's not just the size of the county that governs the navigation requirements but also just how busy it's airspace is... | |
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09-11-2006, 09:31 AM
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#13 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Personally, if I were in charge of a rare flying warbird like the Lanc, I would require the usage of a GPS. If the navigator were off and they crashed for lack of fuel or place to land, that would be criminal. But I would like to see it as a quick disconnect that gets stowed before people walk through it so that it looks as original as possible.
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09-11-2006, 10:16 AM
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#14 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | well in the UK it's not gonna run out of fuel any time soon because of the short distances and you're never far from somewhere you can land, never. Plus they do of course factor in things like emergency plans and nearest airports for each route, as you'd expect, when flying the UK's so small you can't get lost. Also as PA474 is a military aircraft it's very rare for civvies to get on board, although everything is still original, they even have a working radio set! although their primary radio is of course a modern set.........
and kiwi you will love that manual it really does have everything........
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09-11-2006, 12:18 PM
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#15 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | What I mean is that the GPS affords you an additional level of safety that was not available when these aircraft were built. Anything that makes an airplane safer is good, especially when you are talking about a plane as rare as a flyable Lancaster.
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