 | Messerschmitt & Iron Cross Pilots Officers| Aircraft Pictures Discuss Messerschmitt & Iron Cross Pilots Officers in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by Njaco
Traut, I think the profile might be Hungarian.
see - WW II ACE STORIES
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07-28-2007, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Njaco  Traut, I think the profile might be Hungarian.
see - WW II ACE STORIES
The profile you presented shows a white cross whereas the pics show an "X".
Could the He 51s be Spanish, similiar to the Condor Legion? They show a different kind of marking on the fuselage, more like a badge., with a loss of seven Spanish pilots, 3 of them missing in action. " |
'Traut's' Hungarian profile of the Me-109 is his 'siggy' . Hence the confusion.
Njaco, the markings are Bulgarian. It depends on when the photos were taken; 
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Country:  | At first I thought it was a siggy but then I saw "This image has been..." hence the confusion. 
And thanks for clearing the marking issue.
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The first post : Bf 109G6,Avia B.135B,B-24 Liberator.
The second one :Avia B.534,B-17,Bf 109E4,Bf 109 possible F or G.
The third post : Bf 109G6 may be of III/JG27,Avia B.534,Avia B.534 in the background,Bf 109F or G like in the pic of the second post.
As far as the Bulgarian markings are concerned I can see Graeme was faster than me.I've wanted to post the same but...Well done Graeme!!!  and THX for the Arado Ar 65.
In addition, the early markings were used from 1938 to 1941 and then the new ones from 1941 to 1945.
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its indeed my sig,the Messer of hungarian ace Szentgyörgyi.(its a bit big i know,but since im hungarian i prefered it), in my previous post i just agreed your opinions. nice work,guys
I like the smaller axis airforce markings & equipment,and biplanes ..mmh..
i ca immagine as the obsolete Avias and PZL.P24 tried to gain high altitudes to catch the bombers which been faster.
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Originally Posted by Trautloft I ca immagine as the obsolete Avias and PZL.P24 tried to gain high altitudes to catch the bombers which been faster. | You can be sure that at the begining of WW2 both PZL P-24 (especially F and G versions) and Avia B.534 could be up to the Bf 109C,D,E and all the German bombers,the Italian ones I don't mention at all ( please,read about the war in Greece,for instance).The main problem with the a/cs was the lack of fuel,ammunition and spare parts during struggles.
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| Very interesting pics by the way... Like the one with the mixed bunch of erla canopy and standard canopy equiped Bf-109s
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What I . . . dislike . . . seeing at museums are flat struts and (while I'm at it) improperly pitched blades - sometimes they're even unevenly pitched.  Someone goes to all the effort to restore (at some level) an airplane and then they don't even pitch and install the prop correctly. 
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Country:  | Those are really nice photographs you have there. Never saw photos of Bulgarian pilots and of their aircraft. Rally nice. | |
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I just registered and found this forum's website with very famous pictures of our bulgarian pilots and A/Cs-some of them unknown to me and some with my father on them (fighter pilot St.Stoyanov )Thank you very much to all of you.
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Country: | Vesselin, can you point out which pics have your father in them. That would be great!
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
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Country: | When it comes to markings, I personally like the pre-war ones. Vstoyanov, on which photo is your father? | |
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The B-17 is neither an 'E' nor an 'F'... 'tis a B-17G, serial number 42-31329 from
the 334th BS, 95th BG. This ship was lost on March 16th, 1944 during a mission
to Augsburg. I have yet to come across any particulars as to why she was lost,
but five of the crew bailed out over Germany and were taken prisoner. The
remaining five stuck with the ship until she came down in Switzerland... they
were interned.
More images of this Fort can be found HERE... | |
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