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| Senior Member | Pic of B-17G during the Frantic Joe I, help with picture needed. Hello to all, a friend of mine found a picture of one B-17 that was taken during the opration Frantic Joe I flown on June 2,1944. The serial number of this machine is 42-3204x. We believe it´s B-17G, 42-32048 'QUEEN' that crashed close to my born town in Aug 29, 1944. Why do we believe it ? Check the following text please and tell me your opinion. And if someone could be able to read the nickname using some special program that would be much appreciated.... I had to resize it but the full resolution picture is at Page 30 - Footnote.com. So, and now to my opinion: The list of the machines having the ser. Nr. 42-3204x and their operational history: 42-32040 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 2/2/44, Morison 7/3/44, ass 817BS/483BG Tortorella 14/3/44, tran 416 BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, (66m), to depot 26/11/44, sal 12/3/46, TURNIP TERMITE 42-32041 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 2/2/44, Morison 7/3/44, ass 817BS/483 BgG Tortorella, 14/3/44, tran 348BS/99 BG Tortorella 31/3/44, MIA (38m) Vinkovci, Yugo. 2/7/44 w/Reuse, flak ‚n‘ e/a, cr Plettensee?. MACR 6518 42-32042 Del Cheyenne 15/1/44, Gr Island 30/1/44, WO 31/1/44 42-32043 Del Denver 18/1/44, Cheyenne 23/1/44, Mc Dill 6/2/44, Morrison 8/3/44, ass 815BS/483BG Tortorella 13/4/44, one of two a/c conducted secret mission to Czechoslovakia on 17/9/44, with supplies to resistance and returning with US evades, sal 30/4/45. PAPER DOLL 42-32044 Del Denver 18/1/44, McDill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass 815BS/483 BG Tororella 13/3/44, ret US Cincinnatti 20/9/45, RFC Walnut Ridge 17/12/45. Good Deal. 42-32045 Del Denver 19/1/44, Cheyenne 25/1/44, Omaha 3/2/44, Hunter 15/2/44, Grenier 13/3/44, ass 339BS/96 BG (QJ-R) Snetterton 21/3/44, MIA Schweinfurt 19/7/44 w/Quinby, flak, cr Koblenz, 10 POW, MACR 7411. SILVER SLIPPER 42-32046 Del Denver 18/1/44, McDill 3/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass (first NMF a/c issued) 817BS/483BG Tortorella 13/3/44, tran 347BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, (had 20 mm cannon fitted in tail turret), (63m) became weather a/c, ret US 1103 BU Morrison 19/9/45, RFC Walnut Ridge 18/12/45. LIL ABNER 42-32047 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass 840BS/483BG Tortorella 13/3/44, tran 346BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, one mission then taxi collision w/ 42-32115 on take off,4/4/44, sal. 42-32048 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Billings 20/1/44 Amarillo 4/2/44, Mc Dill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, staled 96BG, but ass 840BS/483BG Tortorella 14/3/44, tran 20BS/2BG Amendola 31/3/44, MIA Moravska Ostrava, Czech. 29/8/44 w/Weiler. E/a, cr. Wiseham, MACR 8098. QUEEN 42-32049 Del Denver 16/1/44, Cheyenne 22/1/44, Gr Island 17/2/44, Grenier 20/3/44, ass 534BS/381BG (GD-D) Ridgewell 6/4/44, MIA (20+m) Mulhouse 3/8/44 w/Wilcock, flak, one engine out, cr Nth Sea off Hol, 9 KIA (pilot´s body washed up Orforddness, UK) MACR 7883. YANKEE REBEL. There were 5 BG´s participating on the mission Frantic Joe 1 (June 2, 1944): 97thBG, 99thBG, 2ndBG, 463rdBG, 483rd BG Personally I know the list of the machines involved in the Frantic Joe mission 1 only at 99thBG and 2ndBG: 99th BG: Sqd Serial Name 346 42-32021 346 42-32028 Mighty Mike 346 42-32032 Battlin' Bobby 346 42-32055 Dinah Might 346 42-32068 Heaven Can Wait 346 42-38201 2nd Patches 346 42-97733 Bloody Bucket 346 42-102851 346 42-102855 Weary Willie 347 42-31998 Baraz Twins 347 42-32046 Lil' Abner 347 42-32075 Fearless Fosdick 347 42-32092 Miss Natural 347 42-32097 Slipstream 347 42-38209 Erthquake McGoon 347 42-97744 347 42-102879 347 42-102925 Lady Lynn 348 42-32036 348 42-32041 348 42-32057 348 42-32061 Lucious Louise 348 42-32069 348 42-97650 348 42-106987 348 42-106995 The Anthony J 348 42-107016 416 42-32015 Action Prefered 416 42-32039 Rabid Rabbit 416 42-32052 416 42-32071 Freddy H / Nine Wolves and Poppa 416 42-32074 Oh Josie 416 42-32094 416 42-32110 416 42-97684 416 42-102906 2nd BG: 49 2102830 Flying Latrine 96 2102908 Silver Streak 96 2102932 96 2107006 Old Bird 429 2107066 Mercury 96 2107101 20 2107118 Snafuperman 49 2107162 20 231452 Fifty Packin Mama 429 231470 Ole Shep 49 231590 429 231655 Wanita 429 231806 Kraut Chaser 429 231848 20 231877 Flak Holes 20 231885 Lovely Ladies 429 231889 Mammy Yokum III 20 232048 Queen 49 232053 20 238066 Marishka 96 238069 Big Widget 429 238078 Sweet Pea 429 238084 100 Mission 49 238205 Winged Fury 20 238213 20 297159 Tail End Charlie 96 297161 96 297183 20 297351 429 297490 429 297582 (PFF aircraft?) 49 297615 (PFF aircraft?) 20 297652 (PFF aircraft?) 429 297739 (PFF aircraft?) So, looking again at the list of the machines with the ser. Nr 42-3204x, knowing the list of the BGs involved in the Frantic Joe 1 mission and knowing the history of each aircraft, we can say that, compared to the pic we have, following: 42-32040 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 2/2/44, Morison 7/3/44, ass 817BS/483BG Tortorella 14/3/44, tran 416 BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, (66m), to depot 26/11/44, sal 12/3/46, TURNIP TERMITE – impossible, this machine wasn´t on the Frantic Joe 1 mission and the nickname is too long 42-32041 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 2/2/44, Morison 7/3/44, ass 817BS/483 BgG Tortorella, 14/3/44, tran 348BS/99 BG Tortorella 31/3/44, MIA (38m) Vinkovci, Yugo. 2/7/44 w/Reuse, flak ‚n‘ e/a, cr Plettensee?. MACR 6518 – there´s a chance 42-32042 Del Cheyenne 15/1/44, Gr Island 30/1/44, WO 31/1/44 – stationed at Gr. Island, impossible 42-32043 Del Denver 18/1/44, Cheyenne 23/1/44, Mc Dill 6/2/44, Morrison 8/3/44, ass 815BS/483BG Tortorella 13/4/44, one of two a/c conducted secret mission to Czechoslovakia on 17/9/44, with supplies to resistance and returning with US evades, sal 30/4/45. PAPER DOLL – there´s a chance, but the nickname is too long 42-32044 Del Denver 18/1/44, McDill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass 815BS/483 BG Tororella 13/3/44, ret US Cincinnatti 20/9/45, RFC Walnut Ridge 17/12/45. Good Deal. – there´a chance 42-32045 Del Denver 19/1/44, Cheyenne 25/1/44, Omaha 3/2/44, Hunter 15/2/44, Grenier 13/3/44, ass 339BS/96 BG (QJ-R) Snetterton 21/3/44, MIA Schweinfurt 19/7/44 w/Quinby, flak, cr Koblenz, 10 POW, MACR 7411. SILVER SLIPPER- impossible, 8th USAAF 42-32046 Del Denver 18/1/44, McDill 3/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass (first NMF a/c issued) 817BS/483BG Tortorella 13/3/44, tran 347BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, (had 20 mm cannon fitted in tail turret), (63m) became weather a/c, ret US 1103 BU Morrison 19/9/45, RFC Walnut Ridge 18/12/45. LIL ABNER – there´s a chance, but 20 mm cannon in tail and the nickname is too long 42-32047 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Mc Dill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, ass 840BS/483BG Tortorella 13/3/44, tran 346BS/99BG Tortorella 31/3/44, one mission then taxi collision w/ 42-32115 on take off,4/4/44, sal.- there´s no chance, salvaged 42-32048 Del Cheyenne 17/1/44, Billings 20/1/44 Amarillo 4/2/44, Mc Dill 4/2/44, Morrison 9/3/44, staled 96BG, but ass 840BS/483BG Tortorella 14/3/44, tran 20BS/2BG Amendola 31/3/44, MIA Moravska Ostrava, Czech. 2/8/44 w/Weiler. E/a, cr. Wiseham, MACR 8098. QUEEN- HOT TIP 42-32049 Del Denver 16/1/44, Cheyenne 22/1/44, Gr Island 17/2/44, Grenier 20/3/44, ass 534BS/381BG (GD-D) Ridgewell 6/4/44, MIA (20+m) Mulhouse 3/8/44 w/Wilcock, flak, one engine out, cr Nth Sea off Hol, 9 KIA (pilot´s body washed up Orforddness, UK) MACR 7883. YANKEE REBEL.- impossible, 8th USAAF So, based on these hypothesis, but just my opinion, I guess there are only 3 machines left: 42-32041 42-32044 42-32048. Me personaly, I think the last number that we can not see has a rounded bottom so I guess 42-32048 is the right number. And the nickname might be 'QUEEN'. It is very very hard readable but I think the last two letters are 'EN' and the first might be 'Q'. Just my opinion. Your opinions?
__________________ ![]() Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country. Last edited by seesul; 09-07-2009 at 05:34 AM. |
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| Senior Member | And, does anyone have a list of the machines of the 97th, 463rd and 483rd BGs participating on this mission? Thx!
__________________ ![]() Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country. |
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