Request for Images of Me 109 K of JG 26 - Aircraft of World War II

tango35 · 04-30-2008, 09:14 AM

Hello folks,
i am searching for Me 109 K of JG 26.
Could someone help me, please.

thanks in advance

Thomas

Wayne Little · 04-30-2008, 09:45 AM

Will have a look through some references, I think they are rather scarce..?

A4K · 04-30-2008, 10:03 AM

I've got the war diary of JG26 from 1943-45 at home mate with pics of many of their aircraft. I'll see if the 109 K is in there.

Wayne Little · 05-02-2008, 09:43 AM

Thomas, I have found one reference to a Blue 26 from your PM to me...

Bf109K-4 Blue 26 W. Nr. 330152 of 12 Staffel,III/JG26 100% loss from aerial combat, 27.11.44 Ofhr. Helmut Lorberg.

If this is the aircraft you are looking for the camo would be as shown below.

camo is most likely RLM 75 & 83 upper and 76 lower surfaces.

data and images via Messerschmitt Bf109K Camo and Markings from JaPo.

tango35 · 05-02-2008, 10:59 AM

Wayne, thank you very very much for your kind support !!

I saw your excellent built Me 262 - wow for 1/72 !

greets from the other part of the world

)

Thomas

Wayne Little · 05-03-2008, 10:47 AM

You're Welcome, mate...

No luck with K-4 pics for JG26 so far, they are as scarce as rocking horse Sh*t.

Heinz · 05-04-2008, 12:41 AM

Great stuff Wayne!

Wayne Little · 05-04-2008, 07:49 AM

Thanks mate!

Wurger · 05-04-2008, 06:31 PM

I'm with Heinz.

parsifal · 05-04-2008, 11:31 PM

Found this on an aeromodelling site. not sure about is accuracy

A4K · 05-07-2008, 11:13 AM

G'day Thomas!

Found the following identities in the war diary of JG26 (no pics of -Ks, but some Gs):

All Bf109K-4 aircraft:

9/JG26 :
330390 White 21
330404 white 15
330372 White 21 (9pk/JG26)

10/JG26 :
330418 Black 8
330380 Black 28
330365 Black 17
330413 Black 8
330419 White 20

11/JG26 :
330357 Yellow 8
330386 Yellow 20 (11pk/JG26)
330354 Black 18
330385 Yellow 18

12/JG26 :
331323 Blue 22
331331 Blue 20
330349 Blue 29
330426 Blue 30
330152 Blue 26
330368 Blue 20

Inventory of JG/26 at December 31, 1944:

Stab: III. Gruppe
Type: Bf 109K-4
Total on strength: 29 aircraft
In operational condition: 13 aircraft

Total pilots on strength: 68
Available: 40
Fully combat ready: 29
Of limited ability: 6

If you need more info (pilot's of individual aircraft, dates of crashes, write-offs etc) let us know.

tango35 · 05-18-2008, 07:50 PM

At first i would like to thank you all for your kind support and i have to beg your pardon that i didnt replied earlier; but the reason was that my computer was infected and i had to reinstall all stuff.

@A4K :
The actual informations you sent me are gold, and for further informations i am open and say thanks in advance, because my books about JG starts withe the intruduction of the Fw 190 D in the wing; i have the diary of the JG 26 , but unfortuantely only till 1942.

The fate of OFhr Lorberg is still unknown. Mr.Morbeek and the Deuthsche Dienststelle ( German Bureau for missing soldiers ) in Berlin are saying that he is lost in the plantlünne area, while Mr Caldwell - -the expert for JG 26 - writes that the aircraft was shot down by P-51 near Rheine.
Rheine and Plantlünne are only 30 miles away.

greets and thanks in advance

Thomas

A4K · 05-19-2008, 10:37 AM

In a quick check on the net I found the following info:
(from Missing In Action - JG 26 ) :

27/11/44 Ofhr. Helmut Lorberg 12./JG 26 Bf 109 K-4 (330152)
Blue 26 Combat with P-51 Gütersloh, near Plantlunne (?)

Will get that extra info from the diary regarding the previously mentioned identities to you asap, including Ofhhr Lorberg's Blue 26 - although Donald Caldwell is the author of this book too.

tango35 · 05-19-2008, 11:06 AM

Thanks and i have to correct my self, cause the causality notice come from Les Butler and not from Caldwell.
So for my self the aircraft and the aviator are still mising.

greets

Thomas

A4K · 05-20-2008, 04:40 AM

I have to check my translation of the event with my fiancée before posting, (translating from Hungarian), but according to Donald Caldwell, the crash site of Bf 109K-4 330152 flown by Ofhr Helmut Lorberg was 'Wettringen, Rhein district'. The unit logbook states time as 12.30 and reason as P-51 - but a description of the event by a fellow pilot seems to be a little unclear, with a problem with the motor being cited, another pilot later mentioning they were jumped by P-51s.
Will check with my girl as I say before posting the full details, to make sure the information is correct (my Hungarian knowledge is still limited). Will get onto the full aircraft/pilot/time and reason of loss list when I can.

Evan

04-30-2008, 09:14 AM	#1
tango35 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hannover Region Posts: 104	Request for Images of Me 109 K of JG 26 Hello folks, i am searching for Me 109 K of JG 26. Could someone help me, please. thanks in advance Thomas

04-30-2008, 09:45 AM	#2
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	Will have a look through some references, I think they are rather scarce..? __________________

05-03-2008, 10:47 AM	#6
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	You're Welcome, mate... No luck with K-4 pics for JG26 so far, they are as scarce as rocking horse Sh*t. __________________

05-04-2008, 12:41 AM	#7
Heinz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 6,731	Great stuff Wayne! __________________

05-04-2008, 07:49 AM	#8
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	Thanks mate! __________________

04-30-2008, 10:03 AM	#3
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	I've got the war diary of JG26 from 1943-45 at home mate with pics of many of their aircraft. I'll see if the 109 K is in there.

05-02-2008, 10:59 AM	#5
tango35 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hannover Region Posts: 104	Wayne, thank you very very much for your kind support !! I saw your excellent built Me 262 - wow for 1/72 ! greets from the other part of the world ) Thomas

05-04-2008, 06:31 PM	#9
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,967	I'm with Heinz. __________________

05-07-2008, 11:13 AM	#11
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	G'day Thomas! Found the following identities in the war diary of JG26 (no pics of -Ks, but some Gs): All Bf109K-4 aircraft: 9/JG26 : 330390 White 21 330404 white 15 330372 White 21 (9pk/JG26) 10/JG26 : 330418 Black 8 330380 Black 28 330365 Black 17 330413 Black 8 330419 White 20 11/JG26 : 330357 Yellow 8 330386 Yellow 20 (11pk/JG26) 330354 Black 18 330385 Yellow 18 12/JG26 : 331323 Blue 22 331331 Blue 20 330349 Blue 29 330426 Blue 30 330152 Blue 26 330368 Blue 20 Inventory of JG/26 at December 31, 1944: Stab: III. Gruppe Type: Bf 109K-4 Total on strength: 29 aircraft In operational condition: 13 aircraft Total pilots on strength: 68 Available: 40 Fully combat ready: 29 Of limited ability: 6 If you need more info (pilot's of individual aircraft, dates of crashes, write-offs etc) let us know. Last edited by A4K; 05-07-2008 at 11:16 AM.

05-18-2008, 07:50 PM	#12
tango35 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hannover Region Posts: 104	At first i would like to thank you all for your kind support and i have to beg your pardon that i didnt replied earlier; but the reason was that my computer was infected and i had to reinstall all stuff. @A4K : The actual informations you sent me are gold, and for further informations i am open and say thanks in advance, because my books about JG starts withe the intruduction of the Fw 190 D in the wing; i have the diary of the JG 26 , but unfortuantely only till 1942. The fate of OFhr Lorberg is still unknown. Mr.Morbeek and the Deuthsche Dienststelle ( German Bureau for missing soldiers ) in Berlin are saying that he is lost in the plantlünne area, while Mr Caldwell - -the expert for JG 26 - writes that the aircraft was shot down by P-51 near Rheine. Rheine and Plantlünne are only 30 miles away. greets and thanks in advance Thomas

05-19-2008, 10:37 AM	#13
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	In a quick check on the net I found the following info: (from Missing In Action - JG 26 ) : 27/11/44 Ofhr. Helmut Lorberg 12./JG 26 Bf 109 K-4 (330152) Blue 26 Combat with P-51 Gütersloh, near Plantlunne (?) Will get that extra info from the diary regarding the previously mentioned identities to you asap, including Ofhhr Lorberg's Blue 26 - although Donald Caldwell is the author of this book too. Last edited by A4K; 05-20-2008 at 04:28 AM.

05-19-2008, 11:06 AM	#14
tango35 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hannover Region Posts: 104	Thanks and i have to correct my self, cause the causality notice come from Les Butler and not from Caldwell. So for my self the aircraft and the aviator are still mising. greets Thomas

05-20-2008, 04:40 AM	#15
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	I have to check my translation of the event with my fiancée before posting, (translating from Hungarian), but according to Donald Caldwell, the crash site of Bf 109K-4 330152 flown by Ofhr Helmut Lorberg was 'Wettringen, Rhein district'. The unit logbook states time as 12.30 and reason as P-51 - but a description of the event by a fellow pilot seems to be a little unclear, with a problem with the motor being cited, another pilot later mentioning they were jumped by P-51s. Will check with my girl as I say before posting the full details, to make sure the information is correct (my Hungarian knowledge is still limited). Will get onto the full aircraft/pilot/time and reason of loss list when I can. Evan

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