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07-21-2005, 05:48 PM
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- Central, this is Car 17. Do you copy ?
- Yeah, what's going on, Car 17 ?
- There was a break in at the bank. The thief escaped in a Sea King with ID plate DWG 135. We're following it.  | 
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07-21-2005, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Maestro Just imagine if the owner of that thing stole something...
- Central, this is Car 17. Do you copy ?
- Yeah, what's going on, Car 17 ?
- There was a break in at the bank. The thief escaped in a Sea King with ID plate DWG 135. We're following it. |
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07-21-2005, 07:33 PM
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| There is no way that that is a freakin' Sea King it is too long in the body and it's tail is the wrong shape! It may not be a Jolly Green either but I have seen enough Sea Kings in my time to know it isn't one. It is definatley a Sikorsky job, but what is it? The tail end looks like a J/G which is why I said it looks like one, if you compare the civilian type you will notice that is different also.
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Originally Posted by superunknown There is no way that that is a freakin' Sea King it is too long in the body and it's tail is the wrong shape! It may not be a Jolly Green either but I have seen enough Sea Kings in my time to know it isn't one. It is definatley a Sikorsky job, but what is it? The tail end looks like a J/G which is why I said it looks like one, if you compare the civilian type you will notice that is different also. | It's an S-61! Look at the mounts for the engines and the windows and compare it with the photo of the S-61 I posted. I could tell you that the S-61 and Sea King came from very similar assembly jigs!
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07-22-2005, 11:43 AM
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#20 | | Der Crewchief
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It is a Sikorsky S-61. You keep telling them FBJ.
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07-22-2005, 11:51 AM
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Sikorsky H-3 Sea King
(USA)
(M-USA-H-U|A-R5-N-T2)
The Sikorsky S-61, a large, versatile twin-engined helicopter. It has been built in versions for Search & Rescue (HH-3), ASW (SH-3), tactical transport (CH-3), mine sweeping (RH-3), VIP transport (VH-3), special operations (MH-3), and commercial transport helicopter. Westland built many derivatives as the Sea King and the Commando, and it was also built by Mitsubishi and Agusta. There are two basic models: The original S-61 with a waterthight float bottom, and the enlongated model with a rear loading ramp.
Type: SH-3D
Function: ASW
Year: 1966 Crew: 2 Engines: 2 * 1044kW G.E. T58-GE-10
Rotor Span: 18.90m Length: 16.69m Height: 5.13m
Disc Area: 280.5m2
Empty Weight: 5382kg Max.Weight: 9752kg
Speed: 267km/h Ceiling: 4480m Range: 1005km
Load: 381kg b,t,msl.
Westland Sea King
(Britain)
(M-GB-H-CPU-R5-N-T2)
Westland licence-builds the Sikorsky SH-3 helicopter, and also produces its own developments. The engines are developments of the G.E. T58 installed in the SH-3. Typical for British-built Sea Kings is the radar bulge on top of the fuselage, behind the engines and rotor mast. After the Falkland war, an AEW version was developed with a Searchwater radar, fitted on a rotating arm on the right side of the fuselage. The radar is swung up for landing and down for operation. Just to add some confusion: The RN also operates the Commando, and calls it Sea King HC.4.
Type: Sea King HAS Mk.5
Function: ASW
Year: 1961 Crew: 5 Engines: 2 * 1238kW R.R. Gnome H.1400-1
Rotor Span: 18.90m Length: 22.15m Height: 4.85m Disc Area: 280.59m2
Empty Weight: 6201kg Max.Weight: 9525kg
Speed: 208km/h Ceiling: 3000m Range: 1230km
Load: 22 seats, 2948kg
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07-22-2005, 12:00 PM
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#22 | | Der Crewchief
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07-22-2005, 12:31 PM
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Country: | You know folks I'll humble myself and say that Superunkown and Smokey are correct! I say that after looking at the Jolly Green and comparing it with the original photo! 
But both are 72 feet (22 meters) in length which tells me they have the same or very similar fuselages. 
Designation: HH-3 Jolly Green Giant
Type: Heavy Lift Helicopter
Manufacturer: Sikorsky
Country: United States
Service Date: 1968
Crew: 3
DIMENSIONS
Length: 73 feet
Wingspan: 62 feet (rotor diameter)
Height: 18 feet 1 inch
Weight (Empty): NA
Weight (Loaded): 22,050 lbs
PERFORMANCE
Powerplant: 2 x General Electric T58-GE-5 turboshaft engines of 1,500 horsepower each.
Max Speed: 154 mph
Max Range: 779 miles with external tanks
Service Ceiling: 21,000 feet
Rate of Climb: NA
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07-22-2005, 12:45 PM
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| Actually, everyone is right - I was surprised to learn that the Sea King and Jolly Green Giant are both versions of the S-61
Sikorsky S-61 - ASW helicopter, many variants including HH-3 "Jolly Green Giant" (1959) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsk...on#Helicopters
Whenever someone says "Jolly Green Giant" I think of this- the Sikorsky S-65 or CH-53 
MH-53 Pave Low III 
German CH-53G presented in Laage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-65
The CH 53 is the Sikorsky S-65
Sikorsky S-65 - CH-53 Sea Stallion, CH-53E Super Stallion heavy lift helicopters (1964, 1974) | |
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07-22-2005, 01:01 PM
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| I told you it was a jolly green! When I said it wasn't a Sea King I was on about the RAF/RN Westland built Sea King, it is still a Sikorsky but looks bugger all like a jolly green.
And "the helicopter guy" DerAdlerIstGelandet was wrong with his comment because he put up a picture of the Sikorsky built, Westland style Sea King that the US use, which is NOT a jolly green.
They may have come from the same prototype but look nothing like each other really.
Sigh....nevermind! we all make mistakes!
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07-22-2005, 01:19 PM
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| The Jolly Green Giant is just a stretched Sea King | |
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07-22-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey The Jolly Green Giant is just a stretched Sea King | They are both the same length (see the specs)
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07-22-2005, 02:18 PM
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