 | WWII aircraft wing I found tonight!| Aircraft Pictures Discuss WWII aircraft wing I found tonight! in the World War II - Aviation forums; I bet it was from an SBD dive bomber. I understand quite a few were dumped off the islands when ... |
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11-28-2006, 11:50 PM
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| I bet it was from an SBD dive bomber. I understand quite a few were dumped off the islands when the war ended.
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11-29-2006, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by syscom3  Think you could go out there and at low tide, take some pics of it?
There are some members here that are also enthusiests for the german warships.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!! | I will try to get to it but, I'm up on Roi and Kwaj is about 50 miles away. I know exactly what ship you are talking about. I've been there before a few years ago. Did you know that ship has been the sight of a few deaths out here? Some divers went inside and made a mistake  This was a while ago though. | |
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11-29-2006, 03:29 AM
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Ok, I went back tonight and took some more pics. I also forwarded a picture to our archeologist who is looking into what plane this is from. Picture 1: I took this to give you some kind of view of how big the wing is. The only thing I could think of was the can I was drinking from. Picture 2: This is standing over the wing looking at a part that moves up and down. Thought someone may recognize this?? Picture 3: This is the only part I could find numbers or letters on. It says "29w5872-7" Picture 4: This is inside the wing. The thing is full of sand making it heavy as hell. The tide was coming in so I didn't have the time to try to dig it out some to look under it. That's a project for another night.
Hope you guys like the pictures. I'll update what I know when the archeologist gets back to me.
Oh, I work for the Police Department out here. Someone asked above. If interested you can visit my Flickr photos from out here.
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11-29-2006, 04:22 AM
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Country:  | From the photos there appears to be very little corrosion which is quite remarkable. I wonder if the rest of the plane is buried underneath or nearby?
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11-29-2006, 05:15 AM
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Country: | I've found that things burried in sand like this tend to erode at a much slower rate than in dirt or on the bottom of the ocean. If you look at the SAT pic of Roi, the spot is about in the middle of the shore line on the west side of the island. | |
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11-29-2006, 01:07 PM
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#21 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Very cool, I am impressed and jealous at the same time.
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12-03-2006, 08:27 PM
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Country: | Could be an SBD Dive Bomber I suppose... It is just so tough to get an idea of its size... Perhaps in daylight with a ruler or a tape-measure if measurements are taken then we might be able to match those measurements to an aircraft type... Or perhaps it is from a destroyed prototype... Who knows at the moment... | |
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12-03-2006, 09:33 PM
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#23 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Some observations...
The part numbers are compatible to an aircraft. He's an example, but not necessary a rule of thumb...
"29W5872-7" The first part "29W" is usually related to a type aircraft, area or zone. The "5872" is the basic part number. The -7 is usually a a component making up the higher number assembly or it also indicates an update to the first part issue (-1, -2, -3 etc.) Odd numbers usually indicate the left side, even right.
On the second photo, that looks like a hinge - next to it is a small strip with some rivets in an irregular pattern. Those rivets aren't properly spaced and it looks like it was done by hand. The rest of the rivets are pretty precise indicating the component was assembled in a jig...
The rivets are definitely aircraft rivets, more than likely an "AN470AD." If you notice there is a sunk in dimple on the rivet indicating it is made from 2117-T4 aluminum.
I'm anxious to see what it looks like when you dig it up. On the interior see if there are any numbers like 24T or 2024-T3. The 24T is an aluminum designation used on WW2 aircraft so if this is marked you'll definitely know what era its from...
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12-03-2006, 10:44 PM
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Country: | Yes, and perhaps as suggested some measurements will certainly help. | |
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12-05-2006, 06:02 AM
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#25 | | Member
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I'll go back tomorrow night and do some more looking and take some more photos with a measuring tape. I'll also try to gig this thing up.
Something funny; as I went back and looked at the pictures. I saw some more stamped writing on the wing. Picture 2, look to the lower right side; there is what appears to be - "29L 5300-2-54".
I don't know how I missed that being that I was right there.
I'll update tomorrow night!
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12-06-2006, 08:47 AM
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Ok, I went back and took another look at the thing. The bad news is; its just too darn big for me to dig up by myself. Its way to heavy, for its filled with sand and other things like small crabs.
As I stated yesterday, I don't know how I missed the numbers I mentioned. The picture tonight is of a closeup of the lettering. There is also some kind of tradmark stamp as well as some kind of design that is half covered by a rivet.
The good news is; the motion of the tides twice a day is really starting to bring it out of the sand. I'm thinking in about a week or two, this thing will be out enough for me to try and prop it up somehow.
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12-06-2006, 09:14 AM
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#27 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | This does help - This is factory or depo rework - the 2 stamps shown indicate a "MRB" (Material Review Board) action - The "C" seems to be a normal inspection stamp, the other character is actually an upside down "V" which means the item is a rework part. Interlocking the inspector's stamp with a "V" usually means the rework part was inspected and cleared by the inspector. This procedure has been universal in the aircraft industry for years. The small round stamp has the letters "HT" in the center meaning that part was heat treated.
The 5 bolts are steel and are obviously corroded (dissimilar metal corrosion).
BTW - that repair sucks, if I was an inspector I probably would of kicked the mechanic who did the repair!!!
The link is a page that shows the different part number sequences for many of the manufacturers - the sequence matches numbers from North American, but the C stamp doesn't seem to go UNLESS the aircraft was built at a subcontractor. Here's the link... Aviation Archaeology - Part Number Prefix By Manufacturer
Remember - this information is always subject to exceptions - sometimes special repairs were accomplished and the normal way of marking parts were changed...
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12-06-2006, 12:32 PM
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12-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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#29 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Here's a link on inspection stamps, I didn't see a match... Aviation Archaeology - Aircraft Inspection Stamps
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12-06-2006, 03:22 PM
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Country: | This is pretty neat to see developing. There is little to go on with regards to what aircraft it is. However, it seems we have eliminated some of what it isn't. It isn't Japanese or German or Allied (Flyboy J figured out the details of the stamp so it must be USA). As a Depot Aircraft, my guess is it was a common aircraft and not something special.
As more of the sand is washed away and we get more pics, we should have a better idea. The thickness and shape of the fully sand removed wing should help (keeping in mind the possible B24 mentioned earlier- laminar wing is a possibility).
My guess is a two seat aircraft, probably a trainer. Something like an SNJ or BT13. But I hold the Dauntless/Avenger as a possibility too. | 
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