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07-06-2005, 04:53 PM
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#16 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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07-06-2005, 04:55 PM
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#17 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-06-2005, 05:35 PM
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#18 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | 46 GOING ON 21! I could do everything I did at 18, just not as long!
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07-06-2005, 05:37 PM
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#19 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | That is like the saying "If you wait until the last minute it will only take a minute!"
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-06-2005, 07:39 PM
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#20 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: |  - Hey, do you ever go the site "The Aerodrome," good ww1 stuff, that's where I got some good info. I'm trying to get some info on Italian pilots. Many from the Spanish Civil War that were "double aces."
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08-08-2005, 07:48 AM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| ernst udet?
i know him to be a pilot in both the 1st and 2nd world wars but not so sure if he actually claimed a kill during the 39-45 war before he shot himself through the head in 1941.
hitler used the cover story udet had been killed testing a prototype plane.
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08-08-2005, 09:53 AM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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| Here a quick google search, it does not mention the kill in WWII, and according to the first link he was 'suicided' by the Nazi establisment http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/ger_udet.html http://europeanhistory.about.com/lib...ernstudet4.htm http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/udet.htm
cheers
sandro
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08-08-2005, 04:50 PM
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#23 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I don't think Udet flew any mission during WW2
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08-13-2005, 10:29 PM
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#24 | | Banned
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| Maurice Arnoux had 5 kills, all in WWI. All his victories were single; none were shared with anyone else.
I have a list of air kills that shows 11,052 people with victories in air-to-air combat. If anyone wants it, post a request with the title GregP Victories and I'll make a CD and send it ... assuming 250 people don't want it all at the same time for free, that is.
It cost me $4.75 American to send a CD to Moscow, plus the cost of CD and the CD case. So, I'll make a few and send them, but not hundreds ... | |
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08-14-2005, 12:46 AM
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#25 | | Member
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| Maresciallo Baschirotto was an ace in both Spanish civil war and WW2: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/italy_baschirotto.htm
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08-14-2005, 09:45 AM
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#26 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Very cool site SM - CC needs to see this when he returns!
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08-14-2005, 11:36 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | "Screwball" Beurling was a Canadian RCAF ace from WWII (Malta, Med campaigns - I think he had some 32 kills) that scored some also in Israeli Air War but was killed eventually. | |
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08-14-2005, 11:49 AM
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#28 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | He never made it to the war in Israel. He was killed when his plane exploded taking off, as he was about to begin his flight there. Some feel it was the work of Arabs, but it was never proven.
BTW, Beurling actually scored all but about two of his kills while in the RAF. He was in the RCAF only later in the war. | |
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08-14-2005, 11:56 AM
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#29 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | One of my favorite aces - He scored most of his kills over a peroid of 2 or 3 weeks!
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09-09-2005, 11:05 PM
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#30 | | Banned
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| Hans Adam, Germany, 21 kills WWI, 12 kills WWII
Yoram Agmon, Isreal, 1 kill 6-day war, 4 kills Yom-Kippur war, 2 kills other Arab-Israeli wars
Takahide Aioi, IJNAF, 5 kills Sino-Japanese conflict, 5 kills WWII
Sada-aki Akamatsu, IJNAF, 11 kills Sino-Japanese conflict, 16 kills WWII
Bruno Alessandrini, Italy, 4 kills Spanich Civil War, 1 kill WWII
Qadri Al-Hamid, Egypt, 1 kill 6-day war, 3 kills Yom-Kippur war
Nilolai tyvich Alifnov, USSR, 5 kills Sino-Japanese conflict, 5 Kills WWII
Al-Zoabi, Syria, 1 kill 1982 war in Lebanon, 2 kills Yom-Kippur war
Marius Jean Paul Elzeard Ambrogi, France, 14 kills WWI, 1 kill WWII
And that is only going through 168 records out of over 11,000 air victory records. I'd say multi-war kills are fairly common ... | |
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