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06-06-2005, 09:47 AM
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#1 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Several WW1 aces emerged in WW2, the most famous who comes to mind is Theo Osterkamp (32 kills WW1, 6 more in WW2). I also know of a French WW1 ace Maurice Arnoux who was KIA in 1940. I don't know if he had any kills in WW2.
Does anyone know of additional WW1 aces who flew or became aces in WW2? 
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06-06-2005, 05:18 PM
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#2 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Nope but i know a bunch that were Aces in WWII and Korea.....
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06-06-2005, 07:02 PM
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#3 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Oh yea! Gabreski, Blesse, Meyers, etc. I'm wondering though if there were any others from the "Great War" other than "Uncle Theo." I would guess that the French and Italians might have one or two. I know many WW1 Fighter pilots flew bombers in WW2.
Wouldn't think any from Russia though - Uncle Joe took care of that!
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06-06-2005, 07:10 PM
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#4 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | LOL.... If i wasnt in the middle of researching something else, I could do this one...
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06-06-2005, 07:42 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | I know that William Avery Bishop was an ace in WW I (72 victories) and was still in service in WW II, but he was Air Marshal in charge of recruitment... so he didn't flew during that war.
During WW I, he earned :
Military Cross
Croix de Guerre (France)
Distinguished Flying Cross
Distinguished Service Order with Bar
Legion of Honor (France)
Victoria Cross  http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/canada/bishop.html http://www.constable.ca/bbishop.htm | |
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06-06-2005, 07:45 PM
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#6 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Yeah, the old man was used to inspire young fellas to sign up. The Great War ace!
I'll have to look into WWI aces that actually went on to fly fighters operationally in WWII, but I can't think of any right off. | |
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06-06-2005, 07:58 PM
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#7 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Thanks NS - there has to be more than Osterkamp.
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06-28-2005, 12:23 PM
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#8 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Well most of them were not aces but there actually several pilots that scored kills in both wars.
Major Dr. Albrecht Ochs - WW1 1 Victory, WW2 5 Victories
Major Dr. Erich Mix - WW1 3 Victories, WW2 13 Victories
Generalmajor Theodor Osterkamp - WW1 32 Victories, WW2 6 Victories
Oberst Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp - WW1 6 Victories, WW2 18 Victories
Oberstleutnant Alfred Mueller - WW1 2 Victories, WW2 3 Victories
Major Gerhard Hubrich - WW1 12 Victories, WW2 2 Victories
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06-28-2005, 12:31 PM
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#9 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Here is some more that I just found, not all of them aces in both wars though.
Alexander von Winterfelt - WW1 - 4 kills, WW2 - 11 kills
Eduard von Schleich - WW1 - 25 kills, WW2 - ??
Schleich flew in a dive bomber squadron and then in JG-131 until the end of the war. Have not found anything on his kills in WW2 as of yet.
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06-28-2005, 10:10 PM
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#10 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Hey great stuff Adler! I almost thought this thread was dead!
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06-30-2005, 07:25 AM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It might be soon if we can find anymore!
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-02-2005, 08:25 PM
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#12 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I went through some books I had and came up withthe same names you posted. As time permits I'm going to try to locate some French pilots.
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07-03-2005, 04:14 PM
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#13 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeah I am trying to find some of other nationalities also.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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07-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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#14 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Found some French guys.....
Claude Marcel Haegelln - 22 WW1, 1 WW2
Marcel Ambrogi - 14 WW1, 1 WW2
Lionell deMarmier - 6WW1, 3 WW2
E Corniglon-Moliner - 2WW1, 4WW2
Here's a pretty good site; http://math.fce.vutbr.cz/safarik/ACES/index.html
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07-06-2005, 06:56 AM
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#15 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | None of them aces in both wars but to me this is still amazing given the amount of time between the wars.
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