 | any info on the exp-55 Ascender| Aircraft Requests Discuss any info on the exp-55 Ascender in the Aviation forums; did any of the other nations in ww2 experiment with cannard type aircraft?Hope I spelled that right!... |
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08-09-2006, 04:53 PM
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did any of the other nations in ww2 experiment with cannard type aircraft?Hope I spelled that right! | 
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08-10-2006, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tomsong3320 did any of the other nations in ww2 experiment with cannard type aircraft?Hope I spelled that right! | Japan.....
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08-10-2006, 12:16 PM
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| if your looking for the aircraft itself. The kalamazoo airzoo in michigan has there's restored back to static condition and on display. At least that is what there web site says. I seen the aircraft when it first got there and it was in really good condition. It's on lone from the smithsonian. I havn't gotten down to see it yet but I'm hoping to this year. most likely in the winter months.
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08-10-2006, 12:53 PM
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| About WW2 vintage, you may look at the recent thread about the japanese 'Shinden' in this forum, http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/air...type-4615.html (Kyushu J7W1 Shinden canard prototype)
plus some German studies of 'tailless' desings, of which the Henschel 75 was a canard Henschel Hs P.75 Luft '46 entry
About canards design in general.. they started with the Orville brothers (the 'flyer' was in effect a canard) and they continue today, specially in Europe and Russia: see XF 31, Typhoon, Rafale, Saab Viggen and Gripen, Sukhoi 30, 35 and 37 etc...
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08-11-2006, 02:18 PM
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08-11-2006, 02:45 PM
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| Alright, I'll try to recover hoping to have not destroyed our relationship... Tailless and Canard Experimental Aircraft of the RAF
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08-11-2006, 02:49 PM
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#7 | | Master of Ewes
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08-20-2006, 10:41 PM
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Country: | You can alos look for the Italian SAI SS4 -
An all-metal canard fighter test-flown 1939-41.
It handled very well, but was too different for easy conversion of existing factories, and the training program was too different, so the Italian Command decided to skip it.
The P-55 Ascender and the SAI SS4's canards had moveable control serviceces; the Japanese Kyushu's canard did not move, and was for stabilization only.
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09-14-2006, 04:24 PM
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| I went up to the airzoo the other day and saw the xp-55. I was rather surprised at how small the canard was. I have a couple of pics but there not very good.
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09-14-2006, 05:06 PM
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Country: | Nice shots thought - I think i could see some common parts to the P-40.
I always liked this design, its ashamed it didn't pan out, perhaps a bit ahead of its time. Here a good link on more P-55 info.. Curtiss XP-55 Ascender
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11-17-2006, 10:02 AM
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04-18-2007, 12:06 AM
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Country:  | Looks interesting. An interesting field of research. The Me-163 Comet although a rocket plane fits into this as a tailless plane. Not in the same category but it does have all its drive at the back. | |
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04-18-2007, 09:35 AM
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04-18-2007, 12:01 PM
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| Ambrosini SS.4 canard fighter from 1939. Prototype destroyed on landing and not followed up.  | |
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04-22-2007, 06:49 PM
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Country: | Okay, I slipped up there. Well unconventional tail anyway as it lacks the side stablizers. Interesting aircraft. | |
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