 | F8F Bearcat Armament| Aircraft Requests Discuss F8F Bearcat Armament in the Aviation forums; Originally Posted by Nonskimmer
USAAF/USAF numbering systems have always seemed to be pretty straightforward. The ones that were whacked ... |
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04-14-2005, 03:58 PM
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#16 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer  USAAF/USAF numbering systems have always seemed to be pretty straightforward. The ones that were whacked were the old US Navy designations.
A fine example being two totally different aircraft designated as F4F and F4U, respectively.
I guess that's why they eventually switched to the Air Force system.  | PBF4UY-3A ?!?  |
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04-14-2005, 03:59 PM
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04-14-2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ PBF4UY-3A ?!?  | Agreed. Pretty nuts.  |
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04-14-2005, 04:02 PM
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04-14-2005, 04:08 PM
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#20 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ PBF4UY-3A ?!?  | Agreed. Pretty nuts.  | I ACTUALLY THINK THEY DID THAT TO PISS OFF THE AAF AND TO CONFUSE THE REST OF THE NAVY - PROBABLY DEVELOPED BY NAVAL INTELLIGENCE  |
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04-14-2005, 04:16 PM
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Country: | Then you had the air force with the B-26 and the A-26...different manufacturers too! Then after the war, the A-26 was redesignated the B-26, just to thoroughly screw up historians!
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04-14-2005, 05:50 PM
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#22 | | aka Dickcheese
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While you certainly speak as though you have much more authority on the subject than I do, I double checked a couple of my references as well as checked some web sources for my F8F-3 comment. It appears that other reputable sources such as the National Air and Space Museum (NASM) and my book references beg to differ on the prodigy of the -3 model. http://www.nasm.si.edu/getinvolved/ocp/N.HTM
I do take your comments very seriously and wonder why the -1 was .50s, the -2 20mike mike and then they would revert back to -3 .50s again. But hey, then again, the French flew them in combat.
Frankly I don't give rip, it is the best damn looking piston engine aircraft I have every seen. If one can find sexual gratification in an airplane, I wish to marry this one!!
Happy to be wrong...yet again. Go Rare Bear!
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04-14-2005, 08:31 PM
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04-14-2005, 09:11 PM
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#24 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I saw an F6F-3 and an F8F-2P listedin the lower section and this in the upper section:
Grumman F8F-3 Bearcat Conquest II
Now, there was a Bearcat Conquest I racing airplane (F6F-2). Could it be some kind of mod to an F6F-2?
What book shows that? I am curious because all of my references list up to various levels of -2. Plus, we have one in the museum where I work. If there is a reference to it, I would be curious to see where it is. Are you sure it isn't an F6F-3 Hellcat?
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04-15-2005, 11:51 AM
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#25 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | That's a very good point. Or perhaps its even a typo by NASM.
My reference was the URL shown above and my book "Aircraft of WWII/A Visual Encycolpedia" by Sharpe/Scutts/Marsh. This book does contain some editing errors so perhaps the F8F-3 reference too is erroneous.
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04-26-2005, 07:21 AM
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Country: | I heard that different models had 4 .50cals or the 20mm cannons.
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04-28-2005, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 That's a very good point. Or perhaps its even a typo by NASM.
Matt | Matt, the NASM has many errors on its website, and not justs typos. |
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04-30-2005, 11:52 PM
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