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Old 12-28-2004, 07:43 AM   #16
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I think there are thousands of ww2 planes still flying all over the world. and i think it will stal like that 4 decades

and I know there's a book where you can read how many replacement parts can be used, so the plane can still be callled authentic
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:47 AM   #17
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They have not used B-17's to fight fires for many years here. One they are too rare, hence too expensive to repair and two, they were not designed for that kind of flying. B-25s were however used for many years as Borate Bombers. I don't know if any are still in use now.
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:12 AM   #18
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Well Britain definately has a flying Hurricane, Spitfire, Lancaster and Dakota. It's the BoB-MF after all.
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:37 PM   #19
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Thanks Guys! The evergreen Museam in Oregone has a nice group of flying atrcraft including a bf-109g (I think) with an original engine, P-38L, F4U, F6F, TBF, B-25, B-17 and several others. It's Quite exceptional for a small aviation museam with of course the Spruce Goose for a center piece and what a center piece - it's Increadible!!

As this goes I'll try to compile a list of planes and locations. When I was in So. California I didn't know about the second museam at Chino maybe we can help people find gems like that.
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:40 PM   #20
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That does sound impressive!

Btw evan, love the sig!
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:33 PM   #21
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Thanks, NS. I shot that during our air show.
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Old 12-29-2004, 03:23 PM   #22
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Yes, it's Seattle and after a crash on their 3rd flight, the Lady is back in the air again....we have also 1 Me 108, 2 Me 109's and a FW 190 now flying in Germany....they are building a series of 13 aircraft (11 flyable and 9 already sold) including 2 FW 190 D-9 !!!!!!!
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I know this is a long shot, but does anyone know if there are any Piaggio P.108 Heavy Bombers left? In any condition?
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Old 12-29-2004, 04:02 PM   #23
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No, but there are some parts in the Italian Air Force Museum at Vignale Di Valle in Roma...
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Old 12-29-2004, 04:14 PM   #24
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Old 12-29-2004, 04:44 PM   #25
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A couple of updates from my previous post

Well, it looks like Boeing is sponsoring a project in Wichita Kansas where they are restoring a B-29 "Doc" to flyable condition! I heard it from one of our members who went to lend a hand for a few days. They have a website with a webcam where you can look in on their progress as well at:

http://b-29.boeing.com/

There is also a website that is tracking flyable Spitfires using the name RAF St. Albans. They are here:

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/spitfir...st-albans.html

Thought you guys might enjoy checking those out. I found the Spitfire link while researching a paint scheme for the balsa Spit I am building.
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Old 12-29-2004, 05:30 PM   #26
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Great links! It'll be sweet when "Doc" is finally completely restored!
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Old 12-29-2004, 06:14 PM   #27
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Great links! It'll be sweet when "Doc" is finally completely restored!
I heard that another is being restored what a monumental task. To bad the Key Bird was lost in Greenland a few years back!
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Old 12-29-2004, 06:20 PM   #28
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I remember watching something about that on the Discovery Channel. That was heartbreaking!
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Indeed a monumental and expensive task. The upkeep alone has to be unreal. Our latest budget shows that the hourly cost for our C-46 with fuel, insurance and maintenance costs to be about $1,050! That's with 2 engines! Avgas is currently running about $3 a gallon and the twin wasp engines, of which we have a few, eat through gas quickly. I could not imagine what the costs on the B-29 must be. The hangar space alone for that bird is a big requirement too. But I am glad that someone can afford it. It's nice to see the interest in these old birds is still there.

Static displays are more like tombstones.
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Indeed a monumental and expensive task. The upkeep alone has to be unreal. Our latest budget shows that the hourly cost for our C-46 with fuel, insurance and maintenance costs to be about $1,050! That's with 2 engines! Avgas is currently running about $3 a gallon and the twin wasp engines, of which we have a few, eat through gas quickly. I could not imagine what the costs on the B-29 must be. The hangar space alone for that bird is a big requirement too. But I am glad that someone can afford it. It's nice to see the interest in these old birds is still there.

Static displays are more like tombstones.
When I saw Fifi the guy at the plane gave a number like 3500 hours of maintenance per hour of flight - don't quote me on that it was a long time ago but the number was absouletly staggering.
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