Focke Wulf 190 crash

Crumpp · 09-02-2007, 09:28 AM

Here is the baffling with the part NUmber on it.

It is the stauwand for cylinder 14:

The black piece in the photo with the baffling is a rocker arm.

All the best,

Crumpp

Kurtl · 09-04-2007, 12:27 PM

@Crumpp: Excelent details! Are they out of the spare parts manual?

@Erich: Here is a better close up of the 2cm shell too.

And I found a new part with the FL-number: 204535 and a big part of probably the engine. It's avalve or something like that..

Kurtl

Erich · 09-04-2007, 12:56 PM

Kurtl yes the 2cm shell casing matches mine. I have two blown out cases, now even though the piece is rusted are there any nummern on the bottom of the shell that you can read ??

Kurtl · 09-04-2007, 01:48 PM

Hello Erich,

No sorry, nothing readable on the bottom. Will meet a friend tomorrow who is going to sandblast a few pieces I have found. Maybe after this we can read something.

Trying to find out which types of FW190 all had 2 & 3 cm weapons on board. Maybe it really was a A-8/R2?

Kurtl

Erich · 09-04-2007, 02:08 PM

I can only think of that variant in your southern Region. was just looking at my examples of the 2cm dark black-grey almost semi-gloss oxidized casings. on the back and it is chipped pretty bad on one, the other reads 44 and then an 88 to it's side and then a waffenmat imprint but the number is unreadable and then the other side is chipped off.

either IV.Sturm/JG 3 or II.Sturm/JG 300 which both flew against the US 15th AF bomber formations. Are you finding any B-17 or B-24 machine parts in this area at all ?

Erich

Crumpp · 09-05-2007, 12:27 PM

Yes they are out of the Ersatzteilliste.

You have a picture of the intake valve and part of the head. Did you find the rocker box housing or cover?

All the best,

Crumpp

Kurtl · 09-06-2007, 03:10 PM

Yes Erich, we located an american 4 engined bomber crashplace about 5 miles away from that FW crashplace. We haven't find out if it was a B17 or B24 yet but we don't know the date of the crash either.

About the engine we found nothing else than the part of the "Lüfterrad" and the intake valve and part of the head piece.

We found that part of the belt. Wonder if it was the piece that fitted the belt to the seat or one of the 4 pieces in the middle of the pilot.

Kurtl

Erich · 09-06-2007, 03:16 PM

Kurtl can you say in confidence roughly where they are located in Austria ? write me a private or ..... ?

Kurtl · 09-12-2007, 08:34 AM

Here are some new parts recently found. Look at the FL-numbers! Does somewhere have a list with these parts? The last picture shows the remains of the armament of the aircraft. - Kurtl

Erich · 09-12-2007, 09:04 AM

Kurtl in your privet was the # 190... the werke nummer ? if so this relates to a Fw 190G-8 which II.Sturm/JG 300 had a few. I can not find this particular one in thier data base though but not all Fw 190's are accounted for in the losses roster

Kurtl · 09-12-2007, 03:46 PM

Erich, are you serious that "190.511" could be the Werknummer of the aircraft? Thought it is just a part number or something like that. I don't know what kind of number that is.
Think you meant FW 190 A-8 of II./JG 300, right? Or was there any G-models of a FW 190?

Kurtl

Erich · 09-12-2007, 05:37 PM

Kurtl the more I think about it yes it is probably a part number, I was looking through the JG 300 data I have and there are two G-8 losses and it just shows it was a rarity in II/JG 300 Fw gruppe. but I do think you have parts due to the 3cm shell that you have a SturmFw unearthed. I need to do another re-search in the data as to where and what possible date of downing. Again there are many Fw 190A losses but nothing known so let's hope for the best in this case.

Again are the bottom of the 2cm and 3cm shell casings so bad you cannot find any numbers ?

E ~

Kurtl · 09-13-2007, 12:32 PM

Here is the part with the number. "190511" and "12" readable.

@ Erich: We found some more 2 cm shells but have not found any numbers yet.

Kurtl

Erich · 09-13-2007, 01:35 PM

yes just parts numbers only NOT werke nummers. let me know if you find any markings on future 2cm and 3cm shells, you may find much more, so far quite a bit in my opinion. Kurtl is the Fw 190A found on a hillside or in flat grassy ground ?

E ~ you and your team are doing a wonderful work there

Kurtl · 09-15-2007, 03:53 AM

Erich thanks for the plaudit!

Could have a look on a Focke Wulf 190 spare part manual. It was for sale for 500 Euro, I didn't buy it. Couldn't find a drawing of the "Motorpanzerung" (engine armor) but found a part of the 190.511.XXXX spare part number group. Surprisingly they are all for special screws, bearings and little mountings on the wing. I'm not convinced anymore that "190511" is a part number.

Erich, you first brought up that it could also be a Werknumber. You mentioned JG 300. Do you have further details on that? Think "190" also stands for a manufacturer. They also had little codes on their parts like "qyq" or "erla", am I right? I found such codes on this crashplace and maybe they fit to "190". You understand what I am saying?

Kurtl