Focke Wulf 190 crash

[Crumpp]

I can look some of them up tommorrow. Right off the bat I recognize several of them. You have the part of the oil cooler ring and an access hatch locking mechanism.

All the best,

Crumpp

[Kurtl]

@ Crumpp: Thanks, I'm most interested in the part of the oil cooler ring or "Panzerring", whatever it is, and the numbers on it ("190511" and "12").

@ all: found some stampings on the shells. Here are the pictures:

Kurtl

[Crumpp]

("190511" and "12").

Still working on this. These numbers are proving to be a small mystery and do not correspond to any Panzerung available for the normal variants.

All the best,

Crumpp

[Erich]

Kurtl once I find my ammo book I will be able to help you further on the stampings, very nice actually. of course the 2cm with the 1943 is the manufacture/ 44 is also the manufacture date.

I have to ask are those the original primers in the bottom of the shell casings as they should of been blown out in the crash !

E ~

[Kurtl]

The primers seen in the picture are the original ones. Think that trees decelerated the plane before the impact on the ground. According eyewitness there was never a fire (a big at least). So there was a chance for the primers to stay intact.

@ Crumpp: Can you explain what you think about these numbers more clear? Thanks - Kurtl

[Erich]

but the explosive head is missing correct for those three 2cm rounds ?

E ~ and for the stmps on the 2cm casing. htq is the Factory code and the 30d is the lot number

[Kurtl]

Thanks for the info Erich. And yes, the explosive head is missing on those 2 cm shells. Kurtl

[Crumpp]

Hi Krutl,

I am traveling on business at the moment so I can devote more time to solving this when I get back.

The part numbers do not line up. Those numbers "190511" and "190512" are for parts of the wing not the Panzerung.

Now I have multiple Ersateilliste's so I am not out of resources to check and I have available the numbers for the R7/R8 kits.

All the best,

Crumpp

[net_sailor]

Kurtl your stampings on shells mean:
3 cm shell - manufacturer: Polte, Poltestr und Fichtestr. Werk Magdeburg (aux), Sachsen-Anhalt, production date: 1944 (44), lot number (98 )
2 cm shell - manufacturer: Gebr. Junghans AG, Schwenningen (htq), production date: 1943 (43), lot number (30d)

[Kurtl]

thanks to net_sailor for the identification.

Here are some new parts that cought my interest when I found them in the woods. One the first one there is something like flyweights that move when the rpm gets more or less. Could have something to do with the probeller?

The second part has some rubber on it. Maybe something from the fuel tank. The little batch on it sais something like "Hersteller Aero ....." and there is a number "8-4003 A" or something similar like that.

Any suggestions what it is?

Kurtl

[Kurtl]

This plate was recently found close to the crashplace. Think that only the R8 Rüstsatz contained this kind of armor? Kurtl

[Erich]

Kurtl please ignore one of the private mails I sent you on this last pic. yes it might just be a piece of Panzer platten, an excellent example even with the plate number in in good condition, my piece off of a SturmFw from II.Sturm/JG 4 is bent slightly and quite rusted but still quite a piece of history. if it is fairly heavy then yes this is what it is. Most likely though it is from an A-8/R2 which the main difference between it and the R8 was that the R8 had the cowling mg covers installed aerodynamically. the R2 also had the configuration but in the R8 from November 44 onward it was standard.

Excellent, let me explore further for you on the pilots and dates you requested

[Kurtl]

Gentlemen, who can identify this antenna? It was found at the above described Focke Wulf 190 crashplace (Strumjäger). - Kurtl