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05-04-2007, 11:20 AM
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| Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florence, Italy
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| Fokker D.VII in 3rd Reich service? Hello everybody! I read on a Polish book about WWII German mimetics and markings, there is some old Fokker DVII still in service in mid -Thirties, with code markings as a fighter... Anybody can help me to find a pic of this? Thanks a lot! |
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05-04-2007, 11:28 AM
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| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO   Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
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| I believe the Swiss were the last to use them. By the mid 30s however I can't see why the Luftwaffe would use them as they had far superior fighters entering service.
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05-04-2007, 11:32 AM
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| There's some pictures of DVII being used in other countries: The Fokker D.VII File and details of the one built for Goering in 1940: The Fokker D.VII File |
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05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
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| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
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| great site
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05-07-2007, 09:06 AM
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| I didn't say Luftwaffe used D VIIs as fighters, I said they coded them as fighters... maybe some specimen returned to Germany in Thirties to be used as basic trainers, I don't know. The quoted author itself wrote about some DVIIs with code as D-IXXX (I haven't that book by hand now, so XXX are fake letters), and first letter "I" are for fighters (he found it odd, too)...  |
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05-08-2007, 02:30 PM
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| Siggy Master  Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland
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| Hallo Rog Gigli ! What is the title of the Polish book?
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05-08-2007, 02:53 PM
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| Perhaps they were civil regestered with fighter codexes to be used in a movie. Germany's civil regestration begins with "D" and as far as I know was the same for years.
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05-09-2007, 07:49 AM
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| The book's title is "Camouflage & Markings - Luftwaffe 1935-1945 part 1" by JaroslaW Wrobel. Quote from the book: "Interestingly enough, some of the markings of aircraft built for training purposes (Fokker D.VII fighter from the Huffer Factory in Munich) had codes reserved for military aircraft e.g D-IHOT. Famous from the WWI period, the "Flying Razor" was, in 1938, still considered formidable military aircraft!" Wrobel also wrote training planes had to get the "D-EXXX" code type. Uhmmm... is the "I.D." D-IHOT an inside joke?  Last edited by rog_gigli; 05-09-2007 at 07:51 AM. |
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05-09-2007, 09:43 AM
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| The Pop-Tart Whisperer  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States
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| Don't now if this helps but I found this in the following book: Jagdwaffe: Luftwaffe Colours, Vol. 1, sec. 1 by Eric Mombeek pg 27 Markings of Aircraft and Airships 29 August 1936 a) Civil aircraft German airships and aircraft carry the letter "D" as national marking, followed by a four-letter registration. Reich Air Minister may permit non-standard registrations for airships.... b) Luftwaffe aircraft ....On aircraft with non-military markings operated by operational units, flying schools and other Luftwaffe organizations, the national letter "D" is replaced by "WL", the other four registration letters remaining unchanged.... Whatever it was, sounds like it was before 1936. May have been for movie shots or restored for a museum.
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05-09-2007, 10:19 AM
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| The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States
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| US DVII used in 1923 and some Polish DVIIs and a Dutch DVII.
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05-09-2007, 10:20 AM
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| The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States
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| Finnish? DVII from this site. Couldn't translate. Pienoismalli-lehden no. 1/01 sisällyshakemisto
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05-09-2007, 11:13 AM
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05-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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 [URL="http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v2/v2n3/whitfalc.html"] | |
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05-09-2007, 12:30 PM
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| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| Those were all Finnish, Lithuanian and other Eastern European Country marked D VIIs.
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05-11-2007, 09:00 AM
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 I'll post an explanation about german codes and markings from 1935 to 1945, if someone think it can be useful... | |
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