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I read on a Polish book about WWII German mimetics and markings, there is some old Fokker DVII ... |
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05-04-2007, 11:20 AM
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I read on a Polish book about WWII German mimetics and markings, there is some old Fokker DVII still in service in mid -Thirties, with code markings as a fighter... Anybody can help me to find a pic of this?
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05-04-2007, 11:28 AM
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#2 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | I believe the Swiss were the last to use them. By the mid 30s however I can't see why the Luftwaffe would use them as they had far superior fighters entering service.
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05-04-2007, 11:32 AM
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Country: | There's some pictures of DVII being used in other countries: The Fokker D.VII File
and details of the one built for Goering in 1940: The Fokker D.VII File |
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05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
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05-07-2007, 09:06 AM
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Country: | I didn't say Luftwaffe used D VIIs as fighters, I said they coded them as fighters... maybe some specimen returned to Germany in Thirties to be used as basic trainers, I don't know. The quoted author itself wrote about some DVIIs with code as D-IXXX (I haven't that book by hand now, so XXX are fake letters), and first letter "I" are for fighters (he found it odd, too)...  |
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05-08-2007, 02:30 PM
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What is the title of the Polish book?
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05-08-2007, 02:53 PM
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Country: | Perhaps they were civil regestered with fighter codexes to be used in a movie. Germany's civil regestration begins with "D" and as far as I know was the same for years.
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05-09-2007, 07:49 AM
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Country: | The book's title is "Camouflage & Markings - Luftwaffe 1935-1945 part 1" by JaroslaW Wrobel.
Quote from the book:
"Interestingly enough, some of the markings of aircraft built for training purposes ( Fokker D.VII fighter from the Huffer Factory in Munich) had codes reserved for military aircraft e.g D-IHOT. Famous from the WWI period, the "Flying Razor" was, in 1938, still considered formidable military aircraft!"
Wrobel also wrote training planes had to get the "D-EXXX" code type.
Uhmmm... is the "I.D." D-IHOT an inside joke? 
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05-09-2007, 09:43 AM
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Country: | Don't now if this helps but I found this in the following book:
Jagdwaffe: Luftwaffe Colours, Vol. 1, sec. 1 by Eric Mombeek
pg 27 Markings of Aircraft and Airships 29 August 1936
a) Civil aircraft
German airships and aircraft carry the letter "D" as national marking, followed by a four-letter registration. Reich Air Minister may permit non-standard registrations for airships....
b) Luftwaffe aircraft
....On aircraft with non-military markings operated by operational units, flying schools and other Luftwaffe organizations, the national letter "D" is replaced by "WL", the other four registration letters remaining unchanged....
Whatever it was, sounds like it was before 1936. May have been for movie shots or restored for a museum.
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05-09-2007, 10:19 AM
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Country: | US DVII used in 1923 and some Polish DVIIs and a Dutch DVII.
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05-09-2007, 10:20 AM
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Country: | Finnish? DVII from this site. Couldn't translate. Pienoismalli-lehden no. 1/01 sisällyshakemisto
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05-09-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Perhaps they were civil regestered with fighter codexes to be used in a movie. Germany's civil regestration begins with "D" and as far as I know was the same for years. | Yeap just like N is used as teh civil code for US aircraft, D is the civil code for Germany even today.
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05-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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Finnish? DVII from this site. Couldn't translate.
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05-09-2007, 12:30 PM
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Country: | Those were all Finnish, Lithuanian and other Eastern European Country marked D VIIs.
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05-11-2007, 09:00 AM
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Those were all Finnish, Lithuanian and other Eastern European Country marked D VIIs
| Oh, I know that...
I'll post an explanation about german codes and markings from 1935 to 1945, if someone think it can be useful... |
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