Help with BF 109, II./ JG 27, Obfw. Erich Krenzke - Aircraft of World War II

Maccullagh · 07-03-2006, 05:28 AM

Hi,

You will see this request on other sites but I require all the help I can get.

I have a photo of a crashed BF 109 F4 that other kind people have identified as possibly being Obfw. Erich Krenzke plane from II./ JG 27 .

The setting is El Adam (lybia) in 1942.

I require as much information on Obfw. Erich Krenzke, his plane and any other photos of his unit, especially a description of the colour and markings.

Any pictures of BF 109s that had crashed around El Adam or near bye in 1942 would be appreciated.

The situation at this time is that 2 have identified the plane as possibly being Erich's but information from a third indicates that the Erich had a different number.

The Werknumber for his machine was 8774.

The plot thickens.

Thanks

Regards
Rick

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-03-2006, 08:18 AM

I am doing some research but I think I need more info from you.

Maccullagh · 07-03-2006, 09:36 AM

DerAdlerIstGelandet,

Thank you. I will supply a copy of the photograph as soon as I work out how to post it. I will try and provide a summary of all replies that I have as soon as I can.

Rick

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-03-2006, 09:46 AM

Erich here is probably the one who will be able to get your some info. He seems to have all the info when it comes to Luftwaffe pilots. He is world of info and can probably help you.

SpitfireKing · 07-03-2006, 06:05 PM

I'll see if I can help.

Maccullagh · 07-04-2006, 09:13 AM

Hi,

I have uploaded a copy of my photo that I require information about ( I hope)

Location is El Adam, Lybia 1942.

I need to identify this BF 109 and any informarion would be appreciated.

Rick

Erich · 07-04-2006, 05:33 PM

the information if you can understand it is posted on TOCH.

the pilot was POW and crashed yellow 9, bellied in 100 % damaged/destroyed, F-4/Trop, wrk nummer 8774. He was from 6./JG 27 and was downed due to aerial combat. Second gruppe - might red or most likely yellow though the black/white photo does not show it clearly

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Maccullagh · 07-04-2006, 08:14 PM

Erich,

Thanks for your information and to all of the others.

I think that I have enough information from a lot of experts to conclude that the plane belonged to Obfw. Erich Krenzke .

As I am new to this could you explain what TOCH is please.

Also does anyone have information on the colours used on this plane. That is what paint codes were used.

I have this software that allows black and white photos to be coloured and would not mind having a go of colouring it.

Could anyone point me to a publication to show the marking types for this plane as it is a little different to other plane of JG 27.

The main interest is the positioning of the white fuselage band and the Gruppe bar.

Regards

Rick

Maccullagh · 08-06-2006, 02:48 AM

I now have the service record of my father and the plane can not be of Erich Krenzke as my father was in North Africa July 1941 with a return to Australian soil of April 1942.

As Erich was shot down May 1942 the plane in the phoro can not be his.

I would like to thank all that replied to this post and I will continue the research.

Regards

Rick Maccullagh

hkrenzke · 06-20-2008, 09:57 AM

Hi,

by coincidence I saw recently your posting from Jul 2006 re the crashed BF 109 of ObFw Erich Krenzke. I am his son. My father died in 1997.
I still have his flight log book and a Luftwaffe photo album, showing his and other BF of his wing.

If you are still interested, pls do not hesitate to contact me direct.
Horst Krenzke
e-mail: incotect@arcor.de

seesul · 06-20-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkrenzke

Hi,

by coincidence I saw recently your posting from Jul 2006 re the crashed BF 109 of ObFw Erich Krenzke. I am his son. My father died in 1997.
I still have his flight log book and a Luftwaffe photo album, showing his and other BF of his wing.

If you are still interested, pls do not hesitate to contact me direct.
Horst Krenzke
e-mail: incotect@arcor.de

what a chance!Wow!
I still say this forum is the best I know.
Vielen Dank Herr Krenzke für Ihre Antwort!

Wurger · 06-20-2008, 05:56 PM

I agree with Roman.What a chance !!!

Wayne Little · 06-21-2008, 10:19 AM

Wow, Horst...maybe you could post some pics and info for us to see, many of us here would love to see it!

Hoping you will indulge us....AND welcome to the forum!

seesul · 06-21-2008, 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Wayne Little;366322]Wow, Horst...maybe you could post some pics and info for us to see, many of us here would love to see it!

Hoping you will indulge us....AND welcome to the forum!

[/QUOTE

Hallo Horst!
Genau, ich auch! Bitte!

Micdrow · 06-23-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkrenzke

Hi,

by coincidence I saw recently your posting from Jul 2006 re the crashed BF 109 of ObFw Erich Krenzke. I am his son. My father died in 1997.
I still have his flight log book and a Luftwaffe photo album, showing his and other BF of his wing.

If you are still interested, pls do not hesitate to contact me direct.
Horst Krenzke
e-mail: incotect@arcor.de

Like the rest of them I would love to see and hear more about your father's pictures and log if you get a chance.

07-03-2006, 05:28 AM	#1
Maccullagh Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	Help with BF 109, II./ JG 27, Obfw. Erich Krenzke Hi, You will see this request on other sites but I require all the help I can get. I have a photo of a crashed BF 109 F4 that other kind people have identified as possibly being Obfw. Erich Krenzke plane from II./ JG 27 . The setting is El Adam (lybia) in 1942. I require as much information on Obfw. Erich Krenzke, his plane and any other photos of his unit, especially a description of the colour and markings. Any pictures of BF 109s that had crashed around El Adam or near bye in 1942 would be appreciated. The situation at this time is that 2 have identified the plane as possibly being Erich's but information from a third indicates that the Erich had a different number. The Werknumber for his machine was 8774. The plot thickens. Thanks Regards Rick

07-03-2006, 08:18 AM	#2
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I am doing some research but I think I need more info from you. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-03-2006, 09:46 AM	#4
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Erich here is probably the one who will be able to get your some info. He seems to have all the info when it comes to Luftwaffe pilots. He is world of info and can probably help you. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

07-03-2006, 06:05 PM	#5
SpitfireKing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nora Springs, Iowa Posts: 261	I'll see if I can help. __________________ "I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made." - Franklin D. Roosevelt "Courage is a quality God has seen fit to dispense with utmost care. The men of Bataan were His chosen favorites." - Major General Edward P. King, Jr., USA Commanding General, Luzon Forces, 1942 "No Mother, no Father, no Uncle Sam." - Cabantuan P.O.W.'s flag motto.

07-04-2006, 05:33 PM	#7
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,775	the information if you can understand it is posted on TOCH. the pilot was POW and crashed yellow 9, bellied in 100 % damaged/destroyed, F-4/Trop, wrk nummer 8774. He was from 6./JG 27 and was downed due to aerial combat. Second gruppe - might red or most likely yellow though the black/white photo does not show it clearly E __________________ Rip it up !

07-03-2006, 09:36 AM	#3
Maccullagh Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	DerAdlerIstGelandet, Thank you. I will supply a copy of the photograph as soon as I work out how to post it. I will try and provide a summary of all replies that I have as soon as I can. Rick

07-04-2006, 08:14 PM	#8
Maccullagh Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	Erich, Thanks for your information and to all of the others. I think that I have enough information from a lot of experts to conclude that the plane belonged to Obfw. Erich Krenzke . As I am new to this could you explain what TOCH is please. Also does anyone have information on the colours used on this plane. That is what paint codes were used. I have this software that allows black and white photos to be coloured and would not mind having a go of colouring it. Could anyone point me to a publication to show the marking types for this plane as it is a little different to other plane of JG 27. The main interest is the positioning of the white fuselage band and the Gruppe bar. Regards Rick

08-06-2006, 02:48 AM	#9
Maccullagh Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7	I now have the service record of my father and the plane can not be of Erich Krenzke as my father was in North Africa July 1941 with a return to Australian soil of April 1942. As Erich was shot down May 1942 the plane in the phoro can not be his. I would like to thank all that replied to this post and I will continue the research. Regards Rick Maccullagh

06-20-2008, 09:57 AM	#10
hkrenzke Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1	Help with BF 109, II.JG 27 Obfw. Erich Krenzke Hi, by coincidence I saw recently your posting from Jul 2006 re the crashed BF 109 of ObFw Erich Krenzke. I am his son. My father died in 1997. I still have his flight log book and a Luftwaffe photo album, showing his and other BF of his wing. If you are still interested, pls do not hesitate to contact me direct. Horst Krenzke e-mail: incotect@arcor.de

06-20-2008, 05:56 PM	#12
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,974	I agree with Roman.What a chance !!! __________________

06-21-2008, 10:19 AM	#13
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,525	Wow, Horst...maybe you could post some pics and info for us to see, many of us here would love to see it! Hoping you will indulge us....AND welcome to the forum! __________________

06-21-2008, 04:43 PM	#14
seesul Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Zlin, Czech Republic Posts: 2,489	[QUOTE=Wayne Little;366322]Wow, Horst...maybe you could post some pics and info for us to see, many of us here would love to see it! Hoping you will indulge us....AND welcome to the forum![/QUOTE Hallo Horst! Genau, ich auch! Bitte! __________________ Roman Susil Zlin, Czech Republic ...a friend of Joe Owsianik,So. Plainfield, NJ, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn who was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country.

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