Horton Brothers Flying Wings

[Velius]

Originally Posted by SoD Stitch

There are several other projects that are taking priority over the Go/Ho 229 at the moment.

Just out of curiosity (and forgive the ignorance)- like what?

There is only one existing airframe of the Ho-229 and it's a technological marvel for it's time. I'm sure it's not easy to restore a 60 year old aircraft but sometimes I wonder why it's just sitting in a closet.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Velius

Just out of curiosity (and forgive the ignorance)- like what?

There is only one existing airframe of the Ho-229 and it's a technological marvel for it's time. I'm sure it's not easy to restore a 60 year old aircraft but sometimes I wonder why it's just sitting in a closet.

There's probably no money in the museum's budget to restore it - usually restoration is based on some benefactor throwing some money at the project.

[johnbr]

It did come very very close to being restored.For the last time I was there one of the restorer's had just done the front of the B29.I asked would was his nest project was and he said it was the Horton ho 229.He told me one time that it was the most requested unrestored aircraft in there inter collation.I was told at that time it was to come out in 2 to 3 weeks.All the restorer's where very excised to start working on it.

[Henk]

I think the museum should try and get some museums in Germany to help out with the restoring project and to get people from aviation company's to help with it and they will get a lot of attention.

[Velius]

I wonder if they take public donations? A lot of people (it seems to me) are enthusiastic to see the 229 restored and I'm sure they (The NASM) can collect quite a bit from those fans.

[Henk]

Yes they do, they told me a while back that they would appreciate a donation. I wish I had money to give them some.

[Trebor]

how much would they need?

(I added you to my MSN, btw, Henk)

[Henk]

I do not know, you can contact them on their site. I last had a E-mail from them I think back in 2006.

Cool Trebor I will except you.

[bada]

Hey, dropping by, just discovered this discussion

FlyBoyJ, will play the devil advocate here a little bit, if i may

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Just catching up - a few comments....

The US had no reason to cover up flying any captured German aircraft, if anything the propaganda gods at the time would of put out word that the "Nazi" aircraft was inferior.

And why if this wasn't the case? what if this plane could really fly without much problems?
Till now, i never saw any aerodynamical studies on the ho-9, you can find any Pollars of almost any plane of the WW2, but you can't find any about the horten, at least i never could find anything about it.
So my request would be: are there,somewhere, modern studies done on a model in a wind tunnel, even done by students, but something that we could actually have in numbers and not in assumptions?
I'm really curious about the lateral stability and the effects of the wing spoilers on this plane.

Thanks.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by bada

Hey, dropping by, just discovered this discussion

FlyBoyJ, will play the devil advocate here a little bit, if i may



And why if this wasn't the case? what if this plane could really fly without much problems?

No one ever said it couldn't - there was talk here stating the US Government was secretly flying the aircraft and then covering it up.

Originally Posted by bada

Till now, i never saw any aerodynamical studies on the ho-9, you can find any Pollars of almost any plane of the WW2, but you can't find any about the horten, at least i never could find anything about it.
So my request would be: are there,somewhere, modern studies done on a model in a wind tunnel, even done by students, but something that we could actually have in numbers and not in assumptions?
I'm really curious about the lateral stability and the effects of the wing spoilers on this plane.

Thanks.

I would ask model builders!


Horten Nurflugels

[delcyros]

model builders long have confirmed Hortens idea of a y=sin^3 lift distribution for stability and ease of flight (Y= span in terms of parts of ten; sin^3= bell shaped distribution). The problem is that aerodynamic twist is usually the choice of opportunity to achieve this lift distribution (check ranis vortex software) and twist has other negative trade effects, which in part adds drag, equalizing any advantage of the flying wing idea.
A better approach would use differentiated airfoils at varying chord thickness, which nowadays is easy to make thanks computers but by then was often a matter of luck.

[Trebor]

I had a dream last night that I had seen several replicas flying. it was awesome. too bad it was only a dream tho

[HealzDevo]

I think they probably are a little bit concerned and still hunting down what information they can on the project standards etc. Especially since it is the only one they are probably taking a lot longer over it as there is no other if something does unfortunately go wrong.

[Henk]

They did do interviews with the two Horten brothers and asked them for a lot of stuff and they have a lot of info on the plane, but I think they need money and people to restore her.

[gery]

Hi all,,
some picts here.....

Géry Gueville's Horten Ho 229 Luft Art Images

soon

gery