 | Horton Brothers Flying Wings| Aircraft Requests Discuss Horton Brothers Flying Wings in the Aviation forums; I bet I'm not only one that would love to fly a 100% authentic replica? What a feeling, eh?
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04-23-2007, 01:44 PM
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I bet I'm not only one that would love to fly a 100% authentic replica? What a feeling, eh?
First I need a pilot licence though.....I think. 
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04-29-2007, 11:41 PM
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Country:  | I was wondering, getting back to the idea of this aircraft in the Amerika Bomber project just how likely everyone thinks it is that a bomber with engines from that time could have hit anywhere on the US Coastline? I know the US was designing the B-36 Peacemaker but it is not exactly sure where they would have based it or whether they would be refueled at the US air space limit to be sent further on their way... | |
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05-19-2007, 02:22 AM
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Country:  | I think with the technolagy they had then the Germans would not have been able with the Ho-18 Amerika Bomber or it would just be a one way trip.
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05-19-2007, 11:49 AM
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Country:  | The only aircraft the Germans had that possibly could have made such a trip were the Ju 290 and the Me 264.
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05-19-2007, 07:13 PM
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Country: | True Adler I think the Ju-390 and Me-264 were the best German designed aircraft to take on that role, ut I have read the Me-264 and the ju-390 made a trip and almost reached the coust of the US, no what I am wondering is is this true?
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05-19-2007, 07:20 PM
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#81 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It is debatable. There are facts that will support it and there are facts that say it never happened. There are no records of such a flight every happening. It may very well have been a myth.
If you with to read further on that subject there is a thread dedicated to it.
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05-19-2007, 07:28 PM
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Country: | I know Adler and thanks but the Thread did not actualy give me what I seeked, but I think it is more a myth.
I wonder what the NASM is up to with the Ho-229 they have, I think I must E-mail them again and ask.
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05-20-2007, 06:07 PM
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Country: | I was just wondering what the plans were with regard to the B-36 Peacemakers knowing that they would probably have to go approximately just as far as the Horton Ho Wings... | |
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05-20-2007, 06:16 PM
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#84 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | What do you mean by plans? They would be ferried to where they were needed and then used. It had a range of about 6000 mi anyhow.
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05-20-2007, 06:21 PM
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Country: | Okay, thank-you I just wondered. Because I knew it might have needed to get closer to Germany to be able to be launched. So that raises the question of where you would base the Horton Ho Wings. I know the flying wing would have certain efficiencies but that still doesn't override the fact that that many engines must consume a lot of fuel. So therefore say 4,000-5,000km on the Horton Ho Amerika Bomber do you think? | |
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05-20-2007, 06:25 PM
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#86 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Why do you keep talking about a B-36 being used against Germany? Do I have to explain again that it was not going to be ready before wars end. The design process did not even start until 1941! It did not fly until after the war.
The B-36 was not going to sped up because the B-29 was just fine nor did any developments in Germany were going to speed it up either.
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05-20-2007, 07:15 PM
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Country: | I only talk about the B-36 as it is being compared to the Amerika Bomber, as both are intended as long-range bombers intended to strike at ultra-long ranges. In this thread the Amerika Bomber has been mentioned as a flying wing and I am trying to sort out how many kms it would be able to go and thus am comparing it to an aircraft in a similar role. The main factor though is that the Amerika Bomber version of the flying wing, has a large number of aircraft and thus I reckon about 3/4 of the range of the B-36 Peacemaker. What do others reckon? | |
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05-20-2007, 09:33 PM
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Country:  | Put this into perspective - the B-36 had a combat range of over 6,000 miles and a ferry range over 10,000 miles. The YB-49 had a combat range of 1,500 miles and a ferry range of 3,500 miles - the B-35 had a range of over 8,000 miles, combat range lose to 3500. Neither the XB-35 or the YB-49 were stable bombing platforms (people at Northrop would disagree). Looking at these aircraft and placing them over Germany is a "would of, could of."
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05-20-2007, 09:39 PM
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Country: | I wasn't placing them quite over Germany but I was just trying to use it to understand what sort of range the design of the Horton Ho Amerika Wing Bomber might have had. Since they were designed to serve a similar role of ultra-long distance bombing it is useful to look at one that did see service to get an approximation of whether the Amerika Wing Bomber may have achieved... | |
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05-21-2007, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HealzDevo  I wasn't placing them quite over Germany but I was just trying to use it to understand what sort of range the design of the Horton Ho Amerika Wing Bomber might have had. Since they were designed to serve a similar role of ultra-long distance bombing it is useful to look at one that did see service to get an approximation of whether the Amerika Wing Bomber may have achieved... | Well one could only speculate because it was never built....
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