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Ju-88 Unit Identity

Aircraft Requests Discuss Ju-88 Unit Identity in the Aviation forums; I'm trying to track down the unit of the Ju-88 on the attached photo. Any suggestions or help out there? ...

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    Question Ju-88 Unit Identity

    I'm trying to track down the unit of the Ju-88 on the attached photo. Any suggestions or help out there? Thanks.

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    I've checked my listings for Luftwaffe codes (which might not be complete) and can't find a Geschwader code 'VG'. That's not to say that there wasn't a KG or St/g with that code of course, and I'm sure someone here will have the info.
    It is possible that the aircraft belonged to a training, or operational training unit, of course.

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    I posted a list in the technical section awhile ago. But I don't see it listed. Might have come fresh from the factory and not posted to a unit yet.

    http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/air...gs-9318-3.html (Luftwaffe Aircraft Camouflage and Markings)


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    Yes Chris I have checked the list twice.Initially I thouight the Ju88 could have been one of the plane prototypes.But the strip on the fuselage and underside wing tips painting suggest an operational unit.Also I couldn't find the unit coded VG, also the staffel ID is a bit unclear.Here is a magnified part of the shot.
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    Thanks for the information.

    Wizzo

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    The fuselage band is in the wrong place - shouldn't it be behind the "+"?


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    Most of Ju-88s I have ever seen in pics had the band painted before the tail and behind the black cross.So you are correct.It means that the plane could have been used in a propaganda movie for instance.She looks really oddly.

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    No Swastika either? or is it just one side?

    I thought it was on both sides of the tail

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    The orginal picture is quite blur so it can be the reason.But there is a possibility the Ju was captured and was tested with over painted signs.Also I saw a pic of Ju-88 which was tested in the USA with a yellow band in the same place like the one in the pic above.The difference were the US markings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurger View Post
    The orginal picture is quite blur so it can be the reason.But there is a possibility the Ju was captured and was tested with over painted signs.Also I saw a pic of Ju-88 which was tested in the USA with a yellow band in the same place like the one in the pic above.The difference were the US markings.
    Another possility is that this is a Stammkennzeichen or factory code. Ive looked here but the list is not complete though will explain more about Stammkenzeichen codes in detail.

    The LEMB Stammkennzeichen Database

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    Yep..it is possible.This can indicate the one I found there " VG+DO Junkers Ju88" But why the "D" letter looks like it was of lighter ( another colour???) paint than the band, other code letters and the white elements of the cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurger View Post
    Yep..it is possible.This can indicate the one I found there " VG+DO Junkers Ju88" But why the "D" letter looks like it was of lighter ( another colour???) paint than the band, other code letters and the white elements of the cross.
    To be honest Wojtek, I think this photo has been modified the more I look at it. Take a look at the shadow cast by what could be the sun. It only shows the out line of the wings. Also as pointed out the swastika missing on tail. And then what looks like med campainge colors to me are not quite right.

    Something fishy though I could be wrong as I am no expert on Luftwaffe markings.

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    It might have been.My first impression was that the pic was taken somewhere in Russia.This could indicate the underside wingtip of the Ju88.
    As far as the shadow is concerned, you can be right as well.I'll try to find something like the pic but later.Tonight I have to go bed.Tomorrow early in the morning I'm going to work.

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    IIRC the lighter colored "D" would represent the staffel? Thats what is throwing me. It appears everything is in place except the theatre band and the code.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Njaco View Post
    IIRC the lighter colored "D" would represent the staffel? Thats what is throwing me. It appears everything is in place except the theatre band and the code.
    Its a real puzzle thats for sure.

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