London Blitz night bomber 1941 - Heinkel He111? - Aircraft of World War II

Celation · 03-02-2005, 05:39 AM

I wonder if anyone on this board could help me find some information.

I am looking for details on bombers used in the Blitz on London in 1941. From my current research, it seems that the Heinkel He111 H-6 was used for a number of raids around this time, but I'm having trouble finding specific information.

Does anyone have any more detailed information on Heinkel bombers which attacked London at this time? Details on camouflage and markings, as well as the particular model would be very useful. Also details of whether they were accompanied by fighter aircraft, perhaps Messerschmitt Bf109E fighters?

Many thanks in advance for any details.

Chris.

cheddar cheese · 03-02-2005, 02:45 PM

Hope these help...

He.111H-16
Unit: 9./KG53 'Legion Condor'
Serial: A1+BT
Plane wearing the escort identity bars carried by bombers involved in the large daylight bombing raids on London 15 September 1940.

He.111P
Unit: KG55 'Greif'
Serial: G1+JF
Battle for Brittan period of fall 1940. This plane has an interesting night camouflage: The top is standard camouflage RLM 70/71 combined with non regulation black patches. The bottom and partially the sides of the nose are painted completely black. The emblem of KG 55 was painted on the cabin behind the pilot’s seat.

He.111P-2
Unit: KG 55
Serial: E
This aircraft was used against England in the 'Night Blitz', based at Dreux and Villacoublay in 1940. Night camouflage.

Celation · 03-04-2005, 07:39 AM

Thanks Cheddar - those are great!

Chris.

cheddar cheese · 03-04-2005, 09:57 AM

Quite welcome!

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-04-2005, 12:45 PM

they're nice, even if the text was copied from an american website........

cheddar cheese · 03-04-2005, 02:02 PM

Russian website

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-06-2005, 07:31 AM

if it's british it's all the same thing......

Brunner · 04-28-2005, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheddar cheese

Russian website

but teh text is in Polish, hmmm

evangilder · 04-28-2005, 08:44 AM

Does it really matter where the info came from, if it is correct?

the lancaster kicks ass · 04-28-2005, 10:41 AM

no

and the main german bombers during the BoB were the:
Heinkel He-111
junkers Ju-88
Dornier Do-17
Junkers Ju-87

and they were escorted by day but not by night by Messerschmitt Bf-109Es...........

Brunner · 04-28-2005, 02:40 PM

and bf110s C and D

the lancaster kicks ass · 04-28-2005, 02:45 PM

oh yeah, forgot about those..........

Brunner · 04-28-2005, 04:10 PM

BTW, there was a D version of BF110 with a huge fuel tank. I think it was a long range escort plane. Any idea what was the range of that one?

And question no.2. What types of a/c did the Italians fly over England in October 1940? (so called spaghetti party). I know only about fiat g50 as an escort.

mosquitoman · 04-28-2005, 08:43 PM

They had Cr.42s as escort aswell, I think the bombers were CANT.1007s but CC'll know if anyone does

cheddar cheese · 04-29-2005, 09:00 AM

I dont think they used any bombers in the BoB. They launced one raid of about 50 CR.42 Biplanes and suffered heavy losses.

03-02-2005, 05:39 AM	#1
Celation Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2	London Blitz night bomber 1941 - Heinkel He111? I wonder if anyone on this board could help me find some information. I am looking for details on bombers used in the Blitz on London in 1941. From my current research, it seems that the Heinkel He111 H-6 was used for a number of raids around this time, but I'm having trouble finding specific information. Does anyone have any more detailed information on Heinkel bombers which attacked London at this time? Details on camouflage and markings, as well as the particular model would be very useful. Also details of whether they were accompanied by fighter aircraft, perhaps Messerschmitt Bf109E fighters? Many thanks in advance for any details. Chris.

03-04-2005, 12:45 PM	#5
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	they're nice, even if the text was copied from an american website........ __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

03-06-2005, 07:31 AM	#7
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	if it's british it's all the same thing...... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

04-28-2005, 08:44 AM	#9
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,419	Does it really matter where the info came from, if it is correct? __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

04-28-2005, 10:41 AM	#10
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	no and the main german bombers during the BoB were the: Heinkel He-111 junkers Ju-88 Dornier Do-17 Junkers Ju-87 and they were escorted by day but not by night by Messerschmitt Bf-109Es........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

03-02-2005, 02:45 PM	#2
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Hope these help... He.111H-16 Unit: 9./KG53 'Legion Condor' Serial: A1+BT Plane wearing the escort identity bars carried by bombers involved in the large daylight bombing raids on London 15 September 1940. He.111P Unit: KG55 'Greif' Serial: G1+JF Battle for Brittan period of fall 1940. This plane has an interesting night camouflage: The top is standard camouflage RLM 70/71 combined with non regulation black patches. The bottom and partially the sides of the nose are painted completely black. The emblem of KG 55 was painted on the cabin behind the pilot’s seat. He.111P-2 Unit: KG 55 Serial: E This aircraft was used against England in the 'Night Blitz', based at Dreux and Villacoublay in 1940. Night camouflage.

03-04-2005, 07:39 AM	#3
Celation Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2	Thanks Cheddar - those are great! Chris.

03-04-2005, 09:57 AM	#4
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Quite welcome!

03-04-2005, 02:02 PM	#6
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Russian website

04-28-2005, 02:40 PM	#11
Brunner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warszawa Posts: 208	and bf110s C and D __________________ Horrido!! Brunner PL

04-28-2005, 02:45 PM	#12
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	oh yeah, forgot about those.......... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

04-28-2005, 04:10 PM	#13
Brunner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warszawa Posts: 208	BTW, there was a D version of BF110 with a huge fuel tank. I think it was a long range escort plane. Any idea what was the range of that one? And question no.2. What types of a/c did the Italians fly over England in October 1940? (so called spaghetti party). I know only about fiat g50 as an escort. __________________ Horrido!! Brunner PL

04-28-2005, 08:43 PM	#14
mosquitoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saffron Walden/Sheffield Posts: 2,991	They had Cr.42s as escort aswell, I think the bombers were CANT.1007s but CC'll know if anyone does __________________ When you realise that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually an oncoming train, you know it's time to run for your life

04-29-2005, 09:00 AM	#15
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	I dont think they used any bombers in the BoB. They launced one raid of about 50 CR.42 Biplanes and suffered heavy losses.

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