P-47M 56FG 61FS - Aircraft of World War II

Phlip · 02-05-2005, 04:07 PM

Hi,

I would like to know the exact color of the P-47s from 56FG, 61 FS. I've heard about flat black, matt black with purplish sheen, gloss black with purplish sheen, ...

So what, matt, or gloss ? Purplish or not ?

Thanks for your help

Phlip

Phlip · 02-05-2005, 04:10 PM

Hi again,

I meant P-47Ms of the 56fg, 61FS

cheddar cheese · 02-05-2005, 04:15 PM

Ive had a look around, and the P-47's ive seen arent any of those colours. They appear to be Matt green...

JCS · 02-05-2005, 04:32 PM

I dunno if it helps, but heres what I found...

JCS · 02-05-2005, 04:35 PM

and this...

Phlip · 02-05-2005, 07:53 PM

Thanks for your answers. The HV*Z is exactly the one I'd like to know the exact color.

Thanks again.

Phlip

plan_D · 02-06-2005, 10:12 AM

CC, the colour is for the 56th FG Zemtkes (sp?) Wolfpack.

Erich · 02-06-2005, 01:23 PM

Zemke's wolfpack. Hub was a pretty cool guy later going over to command the 464th fg I believe. did you know he is one of the very few that got cuaght in a thunderstorm cell, hit by lighting and lost all power for several thousand feet, regaining control and power and lived to tell about it. I would say god was awful good to him that day. A real interesting character he was....

back to the profile, the camo of the 56th fg Jugs was quite interesting. some of them all natural metal finish, some a combination of olive drab and violet-greens and metal others and quite a few in complete camo with red stripped noses and different colured rudders. the profile looks to purplish to me.....

E

plan_D · 02-06-2005, 01:41 PM

Talking the 56th FG P-47M, they're either dark purple or black...But I don't know which. And for the Il-2 chaps...my bro has a P-47 'Pengie III' skin from 56th FG, it's suh-weet.

Erich · 02-06-2005, 01:51 PM

black don't think so plan. Ive got a colour pic of Jackson's LM*J and it has a yellow rudder with a two tone grey and violet green finish. It is a P-47M.

Ah ha just found it .....YES ! here is the official colours of the squads now of the 56th fg. pretty weird.

D's and M's finished in some pretty guady colour schemes as I said, striped waves, etc.

61st : midnight blue uppers

62nd: shadow-shaded uppers in Dark green/Medium sea grey

63rd: Dark French Blue and Azure blue, undersides in natural metal.

this was applied starting in February of 1945. It was stated that the camouflage colours added another 40/50 pounds of weight and a loss of 7-10mph to the overall speed.

E

plan_D · 02-06-2005, 01:59 PM

I've heard of them being Black..so I do think so.

Erich · 02-06-2005, 02:04 PM

Plan the midnight blue is probably what many consider black but it is not black. the profile shown is in midnight blue and I have several black/white pics of 56th fg birds in this camo including the one shown in the profile. looks black from the bw pics though, and this is where the confusion is. In any case the ground crews had fun applying many different forms of stripes and other shadow effects and even leaving parts of the fueslage in natural metal. The higher ups must have had a royal "cow" when visitng the group as they were quite a novel and independent bunch and when they were offered the P-51 to replace the Jug they just said ''''''''''''' screw that ! '''''''''''''

plan_D · 02-06-2005, 09:09 PM

I know, I've spoken with someone from the 56th FG over the internet and he said most of the paint was just stolen because they refused to have them bare.

plan_D · 02-07-2005, 10:49 AM

Here's a nice picture of a 56 FG, 61 FS P-47D. I know you were looking for a M but still...

the lancaster kicks ass · 02-07-2005, 02:22 PM

nice pic...........

02-05-2005, 04:07 PM	#1
Phlip Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Paris - France Posts: 7	P-47M 56FG 61FS Hi, I would like to know the exact color of the P-47s from 56FG, 61 FS. I've heard about flat black, matt black with purplish sheen, gloss black with purplish sheen, ... So what, matt, or gloss ? Purplish or not ? Thanks for your help Phlip

02-05-2005, 04:32 PM	#4
JCS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nicholson, PA Posts: 672	I dunno if it helps, but heres what I found... __________________

02-06-2005, 10:12 AM	#7
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	CC, the colour is for the 56th FG Zemtkes (sp?) Wolfpack. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

02-06-2005, 01:23 PM	#8
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	Zemke's wolfpack. Hub was a pretty cool guy later going over to command the 464th fg I believe. did you know he is one of the very few that got cuaght in a thunderstorm cell, hit by lighting and lost all power for several thousand feet, regaining control and power and lived to tell about it. I would say god was awful good to him that day. A real interesting character he was.... back to the profile, the camo of the 56th fg Jugs was quite interesting. some of them all natural metal finish, some a combination of olive drab and violet-greens and metal others and quite a few in complete camo with red stripped noses and different colured rudders. the profile looks to purplish to me..... E __________________ Rip it up !

02-06-2005, 01:41 PM	#9
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	Talking the 56th FG P-47M, they're either dark purple or black...But I don't know which. And for the Il-2 chaps...my bro has a P-47 'Pengie III' skin from 56th FG, it's suh-weet. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

02-05-2005, 04:10 PM	#2
Phlip Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Paris - France Posts: 7	Hi again, I meant P-47Ms of the 56fg, 61FS

02-05-2005, 04:15 PM	#3
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	Ive had a look around, and the P-47's ive seen arent any of those colours. They appear to be Matt green...

02-05-2005, 07:53 PM	#6
Phlip Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Paris - France Posts: 7	Thanks for your answers. The HV*Z is exactly the one I'd like to know the exact color. Thanks again. Phlip

02-06-2005, 01:51 PM	#10
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	black don't think so plan. Ive got a colour pic of Jackson's LM*J and it has a yellow rudder with a two tone grey and violet green finish. It is a P-47M. Ah ha just found it .....YES ! here is the official colours of the squads now of the 56th fg. pretty weird. D's and M's finished in some pretty guady colour schemes as I said, striped waves, etc. 61st : midnight blue uppers 62nd: shadow-shaded uppers in Dark green/Medium sea grey 63rd: Dark French Blue and Azure blue, undersides in natural metal. this was applied starting in February of 1945. It was stated that the camouflage colours added another 40/50 pounds of weight and a loss of 7-10mph to the overall speed. E __________________ Rip it up !

02-06-2005, 01:59 PM	#11
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	I've heard of them being Black..so I do think so. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

02-06-2005, 02:04 PM	#12
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 10,770	Plan the midnight blue is probably what many consider black but it is not black. the profile shown is in midnight blue and I have several black/white pics of 56th fg birds in this camo including the one shown in the profile. looks black from the bw pics though, and this is where the confusion is. In any case the ground crews had fun applying many different forms of stripes and other shadow effects and even leaving parts of the fueslage in natural metal. The higher ups must have had a royal "cow" when visitng the group as they were quite a novel and independent bunch and when they were offered the P-51 to replace the Jug they just said ''''''''''''' screw that ! ''''''''''''' __________________ Rip it up !

02-06-2005, 09:09 PM	#13
plan_D Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,978	I know, I've spoken with someone from the 56th FG over the internet and he said most of the paint was just stolen because they refused to have them bare. __________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004 To those in that club.

02-07-2005, 02:22 PM	#15
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	nice pic........... __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

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