 | Russian aircraft id| Aircraft Requests Discuss Russian aircraft id in the Aviation forums; Yeap the first prototype of the Mi-24 HInd was the V-24 and 12 were built, so that definatly ... |
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01-28-2006, 08:43 AM
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#16 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yeap the first prototype of the Mi-24 HInd was the V-24 and 12 were built, so that definatly is another possibility. I also believe the V-29 was the first prototype of the Ka-29 Helix - B. So that is another possibility.
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01-28-2006, 01:27 PM
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#17 | | Siggy Master
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Country:  | The another possibility is that "V" letter in names of aircrafts could be a mistake in translation what could be misled for us.I've be thinking for a long time about this.In russian language "B" letter is pronounced as "W", in english we should use "V" to say "W" in russian one. The russian alphabet has a different sigh that is used for writting the english "B". In this way V-17 could be B-17, V-24 as B-24 and V-29 as B-29. The bombers were used by Russians in WW2. B-29 was produced in Russia as Tu-4 but several authentic B-29 planes were captured by them.
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01-28-2006, 01:33 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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| Wurgner, your theory seems to fit more actualy. The infomation is about aircraft the Allies sent to Russia so that could fit. | |
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01-28-2006, 01:47 PM
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#19 | | Siggy Master
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Country: | Your answer was very quick so I don't know if you were able to look at the rest of my post.Sorry, the fast writting in english is still my problem but I'm working on it.The practice makes a master. My theory seems to be fit,really but I've still some doubts that it's true.Maybe any suggestion?
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01-28-2006, 03:23 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| Okay, im going to have to atach the document and see if by reading it, it makes sense to anyone.
Its atached. I appologise for the poor English but it was translated from Russian by a computer.
Also do we have anyone here that speekc Czech? | |
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01-28-2006, 04:26 PM
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01-28-2006, 05:03 PM
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#22 | | Siggy Master
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Country: | "Pisis" sounds like a poor translation, I don't know from what language. Maybe it is an african dialect. He,he,he
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01-28-2006, 05:23 PM
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#23 | | Siggy Master
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Country: | Olliieholmes,I've just read the text and I must say tha the translation is poor really. Hawever, it is enought to understand the author. Unfortunately, the computer translator made some errors.For sure, the russian letter "B" was translated into the english "V",althought names of planes were written correctly in english. In the same way, letters "P" and "C" were translated into "R" and "S". So, S-47,S-54 are C-47,C-54 and R-59,R-80 are P-59,P-80. I hope, it can help you to find proper information on the topic.
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01-28-2006, 06:04 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
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| Thank you guys. I have read through it and it is not a very good trnaslator but thats computers for you.
Now to go through and change all the letters around so they are correct, and start making sense of it.
I think i may well have just blown my currant project secrecy but never mind. | |
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01-28-2006, 06:45 PM
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Country: | Wurger, Ollie asked if anyone could speak Czech so I pointed him Pisis's way...
And for obsure African dialects I can speak a few words of Masia and Malaygasy and can converse in Kiswahili... (one of the more useful things of a year out in Africa  )
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01-28-2006, 07:39 PM
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| I havent found anything in either of those languages yet.........
I may do, you never know. | |
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01-29-2006, 03:55 AM
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#27 | | Siggy Master
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Country: | Hi guys!!!
Gnomey, sorry for my misunderstanding. Yesterday I was so tired ,I couldn't catch on to. Forgive me.
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01-29-2006, 04:31 AM
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#28 | | Siggy Master
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Country: | Ollieholmes it's for you. It can be useful for future translations from Russian into English.
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01-29-2006, 04:48 AM
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| Thank you for that. It will be alot of help now i feel. | |
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01-29-2006, 07:11 AM
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#30 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think Wurger hit it on the nail! Good job man!
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