Sukhoi Su-1/3/5/7 - Aircraft of World War II

loomaluftwaffe · 02-27-2006, 05:15 AM

ive heard sukhoi made a series of odd-numbered fighters
ive heard the Su-5 can do 810km/h[/url]

Gnomey · 02-27-2006, 07:22 AM

Su-1: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su1.html
Su-3: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su3.html
Su-5: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su5.html
Su-7: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su7.html

loomaluftwaffe · 02-27-2006, 07:41 AM

looks as if the Su-5 was a hybrid jet/prop plane

Wurger · 02-27-2006, 08:36 AM

Hi

There are links to others
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/RAM/su-1.html
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/RAM/su-3.html
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/RAM/su-5.html
http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/museum/su5/
http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/su-7.html

and interesting drawings of Su-5 (unfortunately in Russian language)

regards

loomaluftwaffe · 02-27-2006, 09:20 AM

thanks,
looks like a usual prop driven plane from the front, the intake is for the jet and the engine drives the turbine!

Wurger · 02-27-2006, 09:28 AM

I agree entirely

Gnomey · 02-27-2006, 09:32 AM

Good stuff Wurger!

Wurger · 02-27-2006, 10:11 AM

Thanks a lot Gnomey

Wurger · 02-27-2006, 10:17 AM

There the rest of drawings for Su-1 and Su-3

MP-Willow · 03-05-2006, 06:21 PM

Did any of the Su-1, 3,5, 7 have combat?

They look like they would give the German's a good fight.

loomaluftwaffe · 03-06-2006, 04:02 AM

i agree

Wurger · 03-06-2006, 09:34 AM

Hi MP-Willow !!!
According to Russian sources Su-1/3/5/7 were only the experimental airplanes and were never used in combat. Both Su-1 and Su-3 had problems with turbochargers. As a result, they were never finished and produced as serial fighters. As far as Su-5 and Su-7 are concerned,they were used to test combined powerplant. Su-5 was equipted with VRDK jet booster and Su-7 with a liquid rocket booster. The additional engines made them faster than other planes but without boosters their performances weren't remarkable to the piston powered aircrafts. Besides, the war was shortly over and the new jet planes appeared better ones.

regards

MP-Willow · 03-07-2006, 07:04 PM

Thanks Wurger. What was the rest of the Su performance like during the war?

Wurger · 03-08-2006, 02:51 AM

Hi !!! What do you mean?

MP-Willow · 03-12-2006, 03:48 PM

What type of actions were they in? How did they preform with the 109s and 190s?

02-27-2006, 05:15 AM	#1
loomaluftwaffe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,848	Sukhoi Su-1/3/5/7 ive heard sukhoi made a series of odd-numbered fighters ive heard the Su-5 can do 810km/h[/url] __________________ "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories." - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"

02-27-2006, 07:22 AM	#2
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Su-1: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su1.html Su-3: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su3.html Su-5: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su5.html Su-7: http://www.airwar.ru/enc_e/fww2/su7.html __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

02-27-2006, 07:41 AM	#3
loomaluftwaffe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,848	looks as if the Su-5 was a hybrid jet/prop plane __________________ "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories." - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"

02-27-2006, 09:20 AM	#5
loomaluftwaffe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,848	thanks, looks like a usual prop driven plane from the front, the intake is for the jet and the engine drives the turbine! __________________ "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories." - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"

02-27-2006, 09:28 AM	#6
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	I agree entirely __________________

02-27-2006, 09:32 AM	#7
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,224	Good stuff Wurger! __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

02-27-2006, 10:11 AM	#8
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	Thanks a lot Gnomey __________________

03-05-2006, 06:21 PM	#10
MP-Willow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Saco, MAINE!!!! Posts: 894	Did any of the Su-1, 3,5, 7 have combat? They look like they would give the German's a good fight. __________________ Seaplanes Are so nice

03-06-2006, 04:02 AM	#11
loomaluftwaffe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,848	i agree __________________ "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories." - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"

03-06-2006, 09:34 AM	#12
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	Hi MP-Willow !!! According to Russian sources Su-1/3/5/7 were only the experimental airplanes and were never used in combat. Both Su-1 and Su-3 had problems with turbochargers. As a result, they were never finished and produced as serial fighters. As far as Su-5 and Su-7 are concerned,they were used to test combined powerplant. Su-5 was equipted with VRDK jet booster and Su-7 with a liquid rocket booster. The additional engines made them faster than other planes but without boosters their performances weren't remarkable to the piston powered aircrafts. Besides, the war was shortly over and the new jet planes appeared better ones. regards __________________

03-07-2006, 07:04 PM	#13
MP-Willow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Saco, MAINE!!!! Posts: 894	Thanks Wurger. What was the rest of the Su performance like during the war? __________________ Seaplanes Are so nice

03-12-2006, 03:48 PM	#15
MP-Willow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Saco, MAINE!!!! Posts: 894	What type of actions were they in? How did they preform with the 109s and 190s? __________________ Seaplanes Are so nice

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