 | tigercat| Aircraft Requests Discuss tigercat in the Aviation forums; I must confess, I don't know that much about the tigercat. I just fell in love with it after ... |
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07-16-2005, 11:14 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Country: | tigercat I must confess, I don't know that much about the tigercat. I just fell in love with it after watching the Duxford 2005 vids posted. I know about the bearcat, hellcat, and wildcat, but I never seemed to read about the tiger much. What was it built for, when was it made, where did it serve, etc etc etc? 
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group
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07-17-2005, 06:47 AM
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#2 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It was designed as a twin engined fighter for the US Navt and now 6 of them are used to fight forest fires today. The Grumman F7F Tigercat was the first twin-engined fighter aircraft design to enter service with the United States Navy. Designed for the new Midway class aircraft carriers, the aircraft were too large to operate from earlier decks. Although delivered to United States Marine Corps combat units before the end of World War II, the aircraft did not see combat service in that war. Most F7Fs ended up in land-based service, as attack aircraft or night fighters; only the later F7F-4N was ever certified for carrier service. They saw service in the Korean war, and were withdrawn from service in 1954.
The contract for the prototype XF7F-1 was signed on June 30, 1941. Grumman's aim was to produce a plane that out-performed and out-gunned all existing fighter aircraft, and that had an auxiliary ground attack capability. Armament was heavy; four 20 mm cannons and four 0.50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns, as well as underwing and under-fuselage hardpoints for bombs and torpedoes. Performance met expectations too: the F7F Tigercat was one of the highest-performance piston-engined fighters, with a top speed well in excess of the US Navy's single-engined aircraft - 80 mph (130 km/h) faster than a F4U Corsair at sea level. The opinion of the Navy flight testers read, in part, "in addition to its potentialities as a night fighter, this airplane is the best medium-altitude day fighter, Army, Navy or foreign, yet evaluated."
All this was bought at the cost of heavy weight and a high landing speed, but what caused the aircraft to fail carrier suitability trials was poor directional stability with only one engine operational, as well as problems with the tail-hook design. Therefore, initial production was only used from land bases by the USMC, as night fighters with APS-6 radar. At first they were single-seater F7F-1N aircraft, but after the 34th production aircraft a second seat for a radar operator was added; these planes were designated F7F-2N.
The next version produced, the F7F-3, and modified to correct the issues that caused the aircraft to fail carrier acceptance, and this version was again trialled on the USS Shangri-La. A wing failure on a heavy landing caused the failure of this carrier qualification too. F7F-3 aircraft were produced in day fighter, night fighter and photo-reconnaissance versions.
A final version, the F7F-4N, was extensively rebuilt for additional strength and stability, and this did pass carrier qualification, but only twelve were built.
Marine Corps units flying Tigercats saw action in the early stages of the Korean War, flying night interdiction and fighter missions. This was the only combat use of the aircraft.
Most F7F-2Ns were modified to control drones for combat training, and these gained bubble canopies over the rear cockpit for the drone controller.
Two Tigercats were evaluated, but rejected, by the British Royal Navy in 1945, preferring a navalized version of the de Havilland Hornet.
A number of Tigercats were used as water bombers to fight forest fires in the 1960s and 1970s, and for this reason twelve examples exist today. Six of these are still airworthy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F7F_Tigercat
Role Heavy naval fighter
Crew 1 or 2
First flight December 1943
Entered service April 1944
Manufacturer Grumman
Length 45 ft 4 in 13.8 m
Wingspan 51 ft 6 in 15.7 m
Height 16 ft 7 in 5.1 m
Wing area 455 ft² 42.3 m²
Weights
Empty 16,270 lb 7,380 kg
Loaded lb kg
Maximum takeoff 25,720 lb 11,670 kg
Powerplant
Engines 2 × Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W Double Wasp
Power 2 × 2,100 hp 1,600 kW
Performance
Maximum speed 460 mph 740 km/h
Combat range miles km
Ferry range 1,200 miles 1,900 km
Service ceiling 40,400 ft 12,300 m
Rate of climb ft/min m/min
Wing loading lb/ft² kg/m²
Power/Mass hp/lb kW/kg
Avionics
Radar AN/APS-19
Armament
Guns 4 × 20 mm cannon
4 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns
Bombs 2 × 1,000 lb (454 kg) bombs under wings
Missiles
Rockets
Other Torpedo under fuselage
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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07-18-2005, 11:37 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Holy hell! I thought the Mustang packed a punch... Thanks for the info Adler. Good stuff, good stuff, I love how Americans do things. More power, more weight, more guns, it's all good.
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group
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07-19-2005, 03:20 AM
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#4 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: |  the 'stang has a weaker punch than many, many planes when you thing about it.........
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"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." |
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07-19-2005, 10:56 AM
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Country: | I wouldn't like to be caught on the wrong side of six .50 cal. 
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-19-2005, 12:17 PM
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#6 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I dont think to many people would.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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07-19-2005, 07:02 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I wonder how the 'cat would have fared in the Japanese theater. You catch a Japanese bird with those guns they'd go down like a paper airplane.
__________________ "I had ten rockets on board, and as I wasn't particularly fond of head-on attacks, I salvoed the whole lot at him. The rockets didn't hit him but but they must have scared the bejesus out of him, for he did a steep turn to starboard... I let him have the full blast, all eight fifty-calibers. I had never seen an aircraft completely disintegrate in the air the way this Me-110 did..."
Bill Dunn, 406th Fighter Group
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07-20-2005, 03:35 AM
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Country: | You catch any of the Japanese planes with a spud gun and they go down like a "paper plane".
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
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07-20-2005, 01:58 PM
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#9 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Exactly. The Wildcats and Corsairs were already shooting them down like flies. A Tigercat would have just made it easier.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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