B-17 landing - Aircraft of World War II

sunny91 · 06-15-2008, 05:18 PM

check the height of the tail..

Sunny

ccheese · 06-15-2008, 06:45 PM

Wonder why he kept the tail up so high ?? Good Vid, Sunny...

Charles

Matt308 · 06-15-2008, 06:46 PM

[Here I step up on my soapbox...again] These warbirds are priceless. It is already debatable as to whether they should be flown. But to do stunts wherein you are standing on the brakes for no other reason than entertain the pilots ego is asinine. Forget about ground loops, the risks of structural fatigue and of asymmetrical brake system/gear failure are such that those kinds of stunts are for fools, narcissists and solopsists.

[steps of his soapbox]

NCpilot79 · 06-16-2008, 10:02 AM

I agree Matt308- not too bright in an old aircraft, for which there isn't an abundance of parts. One B-17 has already been taken off flight status due to a broken spine. If I were head of that foundation, that pilot wouldn't fly the Fortress again.

Glider · 06-16-2008, 10:28 AM

I have been lucky enough to see the Sally B a number of times, but I have never seen her land like that. Maybe he didn't get a second chance.

fly boy · 06-16-2008, 11:57 AM

cheese that took a while for the tail to go down at first i thought it was a touch and go but then i saw it slow down and wow

jimh · 02-06-2009, 08:44 AM

there was nothing wrong with that landing...have any of you ever landed a large multiengine tailwheel airplane?

jim

Bucksnort101 · 02-06-2009, 01:24 PM

I'm not a pilot, but what are the chances of having a prop strike the ground while performing a landing like that? Seems to me the cost of new props, and possible engine damage would make you think twice before doing something like that?

Messy1 · 02-06-2009, 01:33 PM

What type of software do you need to play this video? I have Windows Media and Quicktime, but neither will play the video?

Bucksnort101 · 02-06-2009, 01:43 PM

Windows Media Player works for me.

Messy1 · 02-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Hmm, I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong.

Gnomey · 02-06-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimh

there was nothing wrong with that landing...have any of you ever landed a large multiengine tailwheel airplane?

jim

Nothing wrong with landing with the main gear first but then not dropping the tail for so long is just retarded and risks damaging the aircraft. Dropping the tail earlier preserves the aircraft and stops expensive repairs from being done to it because some numskull of pilot hit the props of the ground on landing. Remind me not to fly with you ever...

@Messy. Windows Media Player works fine.

Messy1 · 02-06-2009, 06:08 PM

It must be my computer, a message pops up from Windows MP saying windows does not support that type of file, and that either the file is damaged or corrupt. I'll mess with it a little more.

Bucksnort101 · 02-06-2009, 06:48 PM

Go out to the Microsoft Updates Wesite and get the latest MS Media Player software, make sure you reboot the system afterwards and and perform the MS Update utility again to make sure there are no further critical updates for the latest player you just installed.

Messy1 · 02-06-2009, 06:59 PM

i do not know if I can, evidently my copy of windows is not able to be validated.

06-15-2008, 06:45 PM	#2
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	Wonder why he kept the tail up so high ?? Good Vid, Sunny... Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

06-15-2008, 06:46 PM	#3
Matt308 aka Dickcheese Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 13,386	[Here I step up on my soapbox...again] These warbirds are priceless. It is already debatable as to whether they should be flown. But to do stunts wherein you are standing on the brakes for no other reason than entertain the pilots ego is asinine. Forget about ground loops, the risks of structural fatigue and of asymmetrical brake system/gear failure are such that those kinds of stunts are for fools, narcissists and solopsists. [steps of his soapbox] __________________ "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the [U.S.] Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan Master of Duplicate Posts Last edited by Matt308; 06-15-2008 at 06:48 PM.

06-16-2008, 11:57 AM	#6
fly boy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 853	cheese that took a while for the tail to go down at first i thought it was a touch and go but then i saw it slow down and wow __________________

02-06-2009, 01:24 PM	#8
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	I'm not a pilot, but what are the chances of having a prop strike the ground while performing a landing like that? Seems to me the cost of new props, and possible engine damage would make you think twice before doing something like that? __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

02-06-2009, 01:33 PM	#9
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	What type of software do you need to play this video? I have Windows Media and Quicktime, but neither will play the video? __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

06-16-2008, 10:02 AM	#4
NCpilot79 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	I agree Matt308- not too bright in an old aircraft, for which there isn't an abundance of parts. One B-17 has already been taken off flight status due to a broken spine. If I were head of that foundation, that pilot wouldn't fly the Fortress again.

06-16-2008, 10:28 AM	#5
Glider Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 3,655	I have been lucky enough to see the Sally B a number of times, but I have never seen her land like that. Maybe he didn't get a second chance.

02-06-2009, 08:44 AM	#7
jimh Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 18	there was nothing wrong with that landing...have any of you ever landed a large multiengine tailwheel airplane? jim

02-06-2009, 01:43 PM	#10
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	Windows Media Player works for me. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

02-06-2009, 02:39 PM	#11
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	Hmm, I'll see if I can figure out what's wrong. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

02-06-2009, 06:08 PM	#13
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	It must be my computer, a message pops up from Windows MP saying windows does not support that type of file, and that either the file is damaged or corrupt. I'll mess with it a little more. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

02-06-2009, 06:48 PM	#14
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,204	Go out to the Microsoft Updates Wesite and get the latest MS Media Player software, make sure you reboot the system afterwards and and perform the MS Update utility again to make sure there are no further critical updates for the latest player you just installed. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

02-06-2009, 06:59 PM	#15
Messy1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ankeny, Iowa Posts: 1,411	i do not know if I can, evidently my copy of windows is not able to be validated. __________________ Bryon O P-61 Black Widow-Mistress of the Night! "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." George S. Patton "Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government." "Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

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