B-17 Vs Me262

STOOMLOK · 08-06-2006, 06:39 AM

http://hexjumper.be/bafke/b17_n_ff.wmv

B-17 FLYING FORTRESS "N"

Sputnik34 · 08-07-2006, 05:58 PM

From the looks of it, I think it is a postwar missile test on a B-17.

syscom3 · 08-07-2006, 06:05 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

lesofprimus · 08-07-2006, 07:09 PM

Have to agree there.... Seen that clip before and assumed the same thing..

STOOMLOK · 08-08-2006, 03:04 AM

NO !
actual WW2 ME262 guncam footage.

4 crewmembers seen bailing out (in actual VHS PAL TV quality frames)

simply to see that fuelfumes exit from the leftwing and the following explosion
of the mixted fuel/air torns the a/c leftwing apart...the beginning of the end
of this B-17 "N".

i had expected that EXPERTS on this aviationboard would clearly know the
difference between a PASSING fighterplane in the top left corner and a real
ROCKET !
how stupied must one be to not see the enormous dimensions if that passing
fighterplane had be a rocket ?!? come on

)

the passing fighterplane is a P-47 THUNDERBOLT !

==>> be serious people if you post something or else shut up <<==

STOOMLOK · 08-08-2006, 03:42 AM

EXCERPT:

http://hexjumper.be/bafke/b17norok.jpg

coincidaly the fighterplane passes just when the explosion happens...
nothing more...nothing less.

lesofprimus · 08-08-2006, 06:39 AM

Theyre called opinions @sshole, and my opinion is that u ned an official warning.... U dont just start throwing out a crap @ss attitude around here....

U now have a 50% warning.....

FLYBOYJ · 08-08-2006, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STOOMLOK

NO !
actual WW2 ME262 guncam footage.

4 crewmembers seen bailing out (in actual VHS PAL TV quality frames)

simply to see that fuelfumes exit from the leftwing and the following explosion
of the mixted fuel/air torns the a/c leftwing apart...the beginning of the end
of this B-17 "N".

i had expected that EXPERTS on this aviationboard would clearly know the
difference between a PASSING fighterplane in the top left corner and a real
ROCKET !
how stupied must one be to not see the enormous dimensions if that passing
fighterplane had be a rocket ?!? come on

)

the passing fighterplane is a P-47 THUNDERBOLT !

==>> be serious people if you post something or else shut up

If you're such the freaking EXPERT tell us what B-17 unit had a plain "N" as their squadron code?!?!?! Here's something for you dumb@ss - Not one 8AF bomb group from the 1st, 2nd or 3rd bomb Division carried a plain "N" codex - more than likely that clip was taken at Point Mugu or Alamagordo after the war. So before you come on here and start calling people stupid, get your own sh*t together or else I guarantee you your life expectancy on this site will be shorter than your pathetic IQ!!!!

syscom3 · 08-08-2006, 10:33 AM

That looks like the missle striking the wing. And If I'm not mistaken, the outboard wing tanks were used up first on missions.

And I cant find any reference to a group code of "N" for either 8th or 15th AF B17.

FLYBOYJ · 08-08-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by syscom3

That looks like the missle striking the wing. And If I'm not mistaken, the outboard wing tanks were used up first on missions.

And I cant find any reference to a group code of "N" for either 8th or 15th AF B17.

Yep!!! And it looks like the bomb bay doors are removed.

STOOMLOK · 08-08-2006, 11:14 AM

WHO trimmed the original vhs footage ?
you or ME ??
this clip originates from the times i used 1.4 MB floppydrives to put big videofiles on in RARfile archives made with a MIRO DC30+ video capture card.

i simply cut the file AFTER the straffing of the fighterjet and just to show the last moments from point X ( fuel explosion tank ) because else the file would have grown to an enormous amount of MB !!

so..what you do not see in this clip is the strain of bullets that hit the B-17
among all the tracer ammo that is RED HOT !
[ red hot + the right fuel/airmixture = EXPLOSION ]

always when you point "so called experts" to the REAL facts they get angry...why ??

P-47 silhouette shows wonderfull and still...
GUNCAMERA FRAME shows clearly in the clip and still...
4 OCCUPANTS clearly to see them bail out after explosion and still...

anyway...i have the COMPLETE footage of this incident,starting with this B-17 flying in group, on VHS and i stick to my reason for the subject posting.

FLYBOYJ · 08-08-2006, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STOOMLOK

EXCERPT:

http://hexjumper.be/bafke/b17norok.jpg

coincidaly the fighterplane passes just when the explosion happens...
nothing more...nothing less.

I looked at the clip frame by frame. Your passing fighter looks like an early sidewinder or falcon missile and strikes the aircraft.

syscom3 · 08-08-2006, 11:24 AM

It looks like the fuel was being deliberatly dumped over board as to induce an explosion. The missles all were equiped with early versions of proximity fuses and this would be one way of guaranteeing a destructive hit. It would also make it easier for chase aircraft to shoot it down if the missle failed.

If there is more footage available that can disprove our theory of it being a drone, then provide it.

Nonskimmer · 08-08-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STOOMLOK

==>> be serious people if you post something or else shut up <<==

Keep that up and you'll be outta here before you get a chance to get comfy.
Take a freakin' pill and smarten the f*ck up.

FLYBOYJ · 08-08-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STOOMLOK

anyway...i have the COMPLETE footage of this incident,starting with this B-17 flying in group, on VHS and i stick to my reason for the subject posting.

Then show it genius....

BTW - Where are the turrets?